Friday Hub Wants Some Order Around Here!
• Underdogs Attack! Regular readers know the heart beats hard around here for the Saints, and so Thursday night was spent mostly in intense emotional pain and mourning, for the pass rush, for the lost Bush and Brees of the past winter, especially for the aura of a championship contender, which can take months to get back. I would mourn the secondary, the progenitor of so much of Thursday's anguish, if it had ever showed signs of life in the first place.
But all that means here is that I didn't see any of Thursday's amateur action after Cincinnati's opening pick cum field goal, the prelude to a straight beatdown of Oregon State, 34-3, in a game dominated start to fin...come again? The Bearcats were outgained by 81 yards, averaged less than a yard per carry on offense and converted two of eleven third downs? And won by 31 points? You don't have to watch the game to figure that out:
| OSU Mistake | UC Field Position | UC Points Off | |
| 1st Qtr. | Interception | OSU 21 | 3 |
| 2nd Qtr. | Missed FG | - | - |
| 2nd Qtr. | Interception | OSU 31 | 7 |
| 3rd Qtr. | Fumbled Punt | OSU 2 | 7 |
| 3rd Qtr. | Blocked Punt | Touchdown | 7 |
| 3rd Qtr. | Interception | UC 47 | 7 |

Just one of those nights.
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So Oregon State hangs its head, and deserves to, for giving away an easy win like that. It's not as easy to gauge the evening for Louisville, which gained an amazing 729 yards (401 passing and 328 rushing), picked up 35 first downs, scored 58 points, won by two touchdowns and never trailed, then woke up to this by the Courier-Journal's Eric Crawford:
He wasn't the only one. Forget about skydiving. This looked like a nose dive.
He wasn't the only one. Forget about skydiving. This looked like a nose dive.
Against a Middle Tennessee State team that struggled in losing to Florida Atlantic in its opener, the No. 8-ranked Cardinals fell on their you-know-whats.
Sure, they won the game 58-42. They also got booed on their home field like Michael Vick at an animal rights rally.
The crowd of 40,882 had to feel like it had died and gone to Conference USA.
Middle Tennessee, which rushed for only 18 yards against Howard Schnellenberger's Owls in the opener, ran for 265 yards against the Cardinals. They averaged 10 yards per play in the game, piling up 555 yards overall. They scored on five straight first-half drives.
On ESPN, even Bill Curry was ripping the Cards for looking inept and confused. That's like having Britney Spears rip you for being a bad parent.
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...this defensive performance can't be chalked up to preoccupation.
A U of L defense that has been billed, maybe justifiably, as its fastest ever, gave up nine -- nine -- runs of 20 yards or more. Speed only helps if you're running in the right direction. And, too often, the Cardinals looked like they didn't know where they were going. Some of that is inexperience. All of it is disturbing for those who harbor national hopes for the Cardinals.
When asked what he addressed at halftime with his defense, U of L coach Steve Kragthorpe said, "nothing in particular."
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But then UL went back to sleep defensively and gave up a 79-yard touchdown run, which turned out to be too little, too late, but came with enough time to make a difference, and more than enough to furrow the brow over the Cardinals' inability to shut the door. A bad start is one thing, even an atrocious start like Louisville had last night. But an atrocious finish, too? That is significant for long-term anguish. No team can sustain dominance with a defense that allows nine 20-plus-yard runs to Middle Tennessee.
At the same time: Brian Brohm. To paraphrase Tommy Carcetti, what the fuck are you supposed to do about that?
The big underdog victory of the day, or the week, maybe of the year and maybe beyond, pending what actually happens with this, courtesy of those upset-struck fools at the AP:
The Associated Press said Thursday that lower-division schools -- that means you, Mountaineers -- are now eligible for its 71-year-old poll.
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Several AP voters expressed interest in putting Appalachian State on their ballots after a shocking 34-32 upset at then-No. 5 Michigan last weekend. But the poll guidelines, which mirrored the coaches' rankings conducted by USA Today, limited eligibility to teams competing in the former NCAA Division I-A, now known as the Football Bowl Subdivision.
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The AP decided to make the change because schools that show they can compete with big-time teams on the field should have a chance to be recognized with them in the top 25, Sports Editor Terry Taylor said.
"Why not? The poll was always intended to measure teams that compete against each other, regardless of division, based solely on on-field performance," she said. "It was that way long before Division I was divided into I-A and I-AA in 1978."
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(emphasis added)
That is the thing: Appalachian is not competing against the teams it might ostensibly replace in the poll, and not competing against them to a much, much greater degree than Boise didn't compete against them last year, or that Utah didn't compete against them in 2004. Playing a I-AA opponent heaps all kinds of shame on any ranked or potentially ranked team, to the extent that those games were recently considered so worthless that they didn't count towards bowl eligibility and still have to be restricted to one per school.

It's Akron Week. Tressel takes no chances.
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Appalachian State plays ten of those games, up to fourteen if it's lucky. And one slim, probably flukey upset against a sleepwalking powerhouse can't overcome that, no matter how lopsided the scores for the rest of the year. After a single week, I would have ranked Appalachian number one for taking home the single biggest pelt of the weekend. But never did it cross my mind a team that doesn't have to play another I-A team - not Louisiana Tech or Temple or UNLV or anybody - might deserve to be allowed to stay among those that live in that world every week. What's the basis for comparison? The teams exist on different levels of play, and one game, no matter how seemingly earth-shaking, doesn't negate the chasms that still exist in those planes - again, one I-AA team has beaten a ranked I-A opponent. Once in history. This is not the basis for policy upheaval. Emotional, reactionary move by the AP.
Anyway, speaking of underdogs...
• Cross Yourself, Ohio State: In journalism, three makes a trend, and as far as "curse" games go, Thom Brennaman and Charles Davis only have two: the duo teamed up to call Boise's stunning victory over Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl - which remains more important for the way Boise won than the fact that it actually did win as a mere touchdown underdog - and was also in the Big Ten Network's booth for Appalachian's win over Michigan last Saturday.
This week: the Brennaman-Davis curse goes to Columbus to call Akron at Ohio State. Publicly, Jim Tressel is typically stoic. Privately, he's hired a Quimbanda to sprinkle tainted goat's blood around the visitors' locker room. Just in case.
• Meanwhile, Back in Arbor Arbor... Jim Carty wonders if maybe, just maybe, it's never been much fun to be a Michigan fan:
The thought struck me that there's nothing Lloyd Carr and this football team could do to elicit a similar reaction here in Ann Arbor.
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Lenoir rhyne
"Which is playing a middling Division II team"
Come on now my sister runs track there,and I played hs ball with about half thier football team, no need to be a jerk to them.
no matter how bad they were last year.
by AngryAngel65 on Sep 7, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions
Re: Lenoir-Rhyne
joking,
also i agree that the ap poll position dosent compute, but, in a case such as this app did deserve a "Honary" position in the top 25 as 25, however the change resulted because voters wanted to basicly do just that, as a token gesture, not as a symbol of 1 aa being on the same skill level and talent of the big boys and deserveing bcs bowls (which they would have turned down, because they have discovered a mystical and final thing called a "playoff"),
but as of now even if app st. beats the tar out of lenoir ryhne and gets the top25 nod, it WIll be a one week affair in which the voters are just saying, wow you beat michgan were all impressed heres a cookie.
And also if such a thing happens again, the sunday after, that you will be able to see the upsetour in the top 25 for their one big unlikly win.
So really its not that big of a deal.
(both the lenoir rhyne thing and the poll change.)
by AngryAngel65 on Sep 7, 2007 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Ranking I-AA teams -- not so bad?
Let's say ASU was #25 in the AP poll. Considering their remaining schedule -- which is actually pretty tough in I-AA terms -- they would fall out of the top 25 quickly. Voters would no longer have a baseline for comparing ASU and the top I-A teams. So no harm done, from your standpoint. Given your "I ranks em like I sees em" methodology, I'm surprised that you're averse to this!
Since I-A and I-AA teams do play each other on occasion, there is no logic in excluding the lower divisions from the rankings. I-A and I-AA teams are already mixed together in the Sagarin ratings (which, incidentally, has ASU at 38 now).
by EconoMz on Sep 7, 2007 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
app state and boise not so bad
also, your anger over boise state getting a first place vote represents a misunderstanding of how polling works. the only meaningful result from polling is the average ranking of each team--if one person produces an aberrant ballot it is drowned out by the vast majority of ballots that do not follow this behavior. however, if you attempt to purge the polling process of all variation that you deem ignorant you will certainly lose a great number of differing opinions. remember the AP poller who gave florida a #1 vote before the BCS last year? the number of people calling for him to lose his vote fell off dramatically after the OSU game. at the time, his vote was one aberrant ballot that was drowned out by the masses, but his novel hypothesis wound up being the correct one. i suggest dropping the poll nazi approach--try focusing the on the average results, and think about the possible validity of alternative opinions, even if they oppose your own.
by jm14 on Sep 7, 2007 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh dear
by Jack on Sep 7, 2007 12:27 PM EDT reply actions
On Michigan fans and fun
In response, fans gathered at the school president Lee Bollinger's house, and he invited everyone in for an impromptu party. I wasn't in Ann Arbor at the time, but from what everyone tells me, it was the very definition of fun. (If Columbia can score a big upset someday, maybe his current school will be as lucky)
Carty is picking either cherries or nits here,
by Flop on Sep 7, 2007 8:24 PM EDT reply actions

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