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BLOG POLLIN': WEEK FIVE BALLOT

This week's strictly performance-based, non-speculative ballot is brought to you by the great astronomer and successful popularizer of astronomy, astrophysics, and other natural sciences, Carl Sagan, who reminds readers that


Human history can be viewed as a slowly dawning awareness that your most profound scientific insights will be misappropriated to apply to football.
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The truth may be puzzling. It may take some work to grapple with. It may be counterintuitive. It may contradict deeply held prejudices. It may not be consonant with what we desperately want to be true. But our preferences do not determine what's true. We have a method, and that method helps us to reach not absolute truth, only asymptotic approaches to the truth -- never there, just closer and closer, always finding vast new oceans of undiscovered possibilities. Cleverly designed experiments are the key.
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...and also that Craig James is kind of a dick.
BlogPoll Ballot, Week Five
This is not a power poll.
1. LSU
2. Oklahoma
3. Florida
4. Oregon
5. Southern Cal
6. Boston College
7. California
8. Kentucky
9. West Virginia
10. Ohio State
11. Clemson
12. Wisconsin
13. Arizona State
14. Michigan State
15. South Florida
16. Texas
17. Cincinnati
18. Missouri
19. Purdue
20. Kansas
21. Rutgers
22. Georgia
23. Alabama
24. South Carolina
25. Miami

Waiting: Hawaii, Connecticut, Illinois, Virginia, UCLA, Mississippi State, Penn State, Texas A&M, Florida State, Texas Tech
No changes at the top this week, as if such a coup was possible after LSU took apart South Carolina in haphazardly dominant fashion, without even resorting to its high-octane, two stroke genitals. At some point - i.e. against Florida in two weeks - the Tigers might have to establish something or someone from its grab-bag of philosophy and talent that qualifies as a "go-to" option, which Gary Crowton seems to be having too much fun tinkering around to think about right now. But, as Kyle points out, LSU is the only blemish on the records of Carolina, Mississippi State and Virginia Tech at the moment, and therefore easily the most impressive body of work to date.

Elsewhere in the top five, Oklahoma moves up based on a) beating the mitochondrial DNA out of a fairly decent Tulsa team and b) getting a boost from beating the mitochondrial DNA out of Miami two weeks ago, the Canes becoming a significantly more valuable pelt with their demolition of Texas A&M last Thursday. Oregon momentarily joins the elite, leaping Southern Cal on the same premises: the Ducks' blowout at Michigan looks even more impressive now than it did immediately after the fact, and Nebraska's near-death encounter with Ball State diminishes USC's blasting of the Huskers. So while there was nothing more impressive about Oregon's win over Stanford next to USC's wipeout of Washington State (probably the opposite, if anything, given the Cardinal managed a miraculous, 28-point second quarter on the Ducks), Oregon's entire body of work improved.


Of course, they'll resort to fake field goals, but the chainsaw dick? Some things need to stay in the bag for a rainy day.
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Boston College (down from two last week for adding the albatross of Army to the ledger), California and Kentucky all benefit from at least two wins over non-patsies, but it gets more arbitrary from spots nine (West Virginia) through roughly fifteen (South Florida). The marquee victories/victims in this group are, respectively, Maryland, Washington, Florida State, Iowa, Oregon State, Pittsburgh and Auburn, all respectable but currently rather mediocre programs of dubious merit through the first month; only FSU and Maryland among that lineup have fewer than two losses, and that's likely only because they happen to have feasted on UAB, Colorado, Florida Atlantic and the like. Otherwise, all seven of the teams in question have beaten either patsies or borderline cases (like Colorado, for instance, or Northwestern) against whom victories aren't worth much more. It's very possible to add Texas, Cincinnati or Missouri to this tier, to make it an even ten. The Tigers creep up as the value of beating Illinois - by whatever means necessary - slowly increases by the week.

 Purdue-Kansas-Rutgers=birds of a feather. Nice-looking birds, at first glance, but no way to know yet if there's any meat on those bones - between them, this trio hasn't dealt with pulling out a single close game but also has faced nothing resembling a quality opponent. All the Boilers get for raking 1-3 Minnesota across the coals Saturday is to lead this pack of prove-its.

Behind them is the trio of one-loss wonders from the SEC, each with a quality win and a quality loss in the last three weeks. Georgia leads because its "secondary win," after Alabama, is Oklahoma State, which regains a little of the cachet it so quickly lost by beating Texas Tech, Mike Gundy tirade notwithstanding. Alabama is in front of the Gamecocks for the same reason: Georgia might be a mite more impressive than Arkansas, as far as hotly-contested pelts go, but even beating Vanderbilt is enough to push the Tide over the top when put up against USC's second-best win, over UL-Lafayette.

As always, this will be completely different next week. Except, probably, for LSU at number one. The Tigers look entrenched until Florida comes in.

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Great poll!
As so many of your counterparts have done, you made the wise choice in deciding that USC losing to LSU by 12 is more than enough justification to move them behind a UGA team that they beat in Athens.

We're not at the point of the season where this is bound to happen, either.  Both teams have played two meaningful games (how does Okla. St. look now?), and one of them was against each other.  USC won.

Can you people not just admit you were wrong earlier in the year and that USC is better than UGA, or does the entrenchment of programs now permeate from the AP right on down to the blogs?

As Brendan Frasier might say in School Ties: "COWARD!!!"

by USCKB on Sep 26, 2007 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You misunderstand his ranking system
SMQB looks at whole of a team's body of work to determine the rankings while you foolishly focus on a single game. He is not saying that UGA is beter than USC, but that UGA's resume of wins and losses is better than USC's.
Oh, and saying USC only lost to LSU by tweleve is implying the game was closer than it was. USC's last touchdown came with a little more than 2 minutes left on the clock in a game that was long decided. The margin was closer to 18 (or even 21) than it was to 12.

by Bear from Sacramento on Sep 26, 2007 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is one loss that bad?
I believe the top one-loss team should be somewhere around the 12 spot.

Case study: Wisconsin vs South Carolina

vs I-AA patsy:
Wisconsin - clear win over the Citadel
USC - blowout over SC State
I don't agree with those who think the Badgers were ever in danger against the Citadel, so it's a tiny edge to the Cocks, but not enough to make a difference in the wider scheme of things.

vs mid-major patsy:
Wisconsin - tight win at UNLV
USC - clear win over UL Lafayette
Can't give the Cocks too much credit, because Lafayette are next-level bad, but the Badgers really were in trouble at UNLV. Clear edge to USC.

Signature win:
Wisconsin - near-blowout win over Washington State
USC - tight win at Georgia
The Badgers' O-line was brilliant against the Cougars. Still, since we're resume-ranking, who have Wazzu beaten? San Diego State and Idaho. Georgia, of course, have won against Oklahoma State and at Alabama, and the Cocks beat them on the road. Large advantage to USC.

Leftover:
Wisconsin - tight win over Iowa
USC - clear loss to USC
Iowa is ridiculously inconsistent as usual, and yeah, it was closer than it should've been, but it's still a quality win, so large advantage to Wisconsin. Now the question is, is Wisconsin's edge here big enough to overcome USC's advantages elsewhere? You could go either way, but I'd favor the Cocks.

The point is not that South Carolina should necessarily be above Wisconsin, but that the top one-loss team should be above many more undefeated teams than just Hawaii and UConn.

by bradluen on Sep 26, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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