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An Absurdly Premature Assessment of Notre Dame

A random, too-soon look at next fall, sans the inevitable injuries, suspensions and other pratfalls of the too-long interim.
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The least you should know about Notre Dame...
2006 Record
10-3
Past Five Years
40-21
Returning Starters, Roughly
10 (4 Offense, 6 Defense)
Best Player
At the risk of drawing the thunder-fisted ire of Tom Zbikowski, the ongoing secondary issues and lack of a single pick in ’06 leads me instead to the only recognizable figure on the offense, for those not obsessing over grainy Spring video: tight end John Carlson, who averaged five catches and 69 yards over the first nine games before missing all or most of the final four. Fans might remember Carlson from his wide open touchdown gallop against Michigan State, one of four on the year, and one of the reasons he’ll be the go-to guy for the new quarterback early on in a very tight end-friendly system.
Bizarre Tradition
Other than losing in bowl games - zing! - since the 1960s, it seems Notre Dame is the school more than any other that claims "tradition" as its tradition. As Joe Paterno once told his players (or twice, or 30 times, who’s counting?), Knute Rockne is not going to crawl out of the ground and tackle anyone, but the sublime hokum of Notre Dame Football is its own informal industry: the Web is full of preservation efforts, Irish video archives, Notre Dame Football Weekends in conjunction with the College Football Hall of Fame and innumerable paeans to the Four Horsemen, helmet flecks, green jerseys, Beano Cook, etc., which everybody knows. And because everyone hates Notre Dame, which is a tradition all its own. But two very weird, related rituals I didn’t know until I started snooping around the ND wormhole: the post-third quarter rendition of the 1812 Overture, sans cannon, followed by very respectful silence during the run-of-the-mill safety announcement, as demonstrated during last fall’s win over Army:

There is a deep sociological lesson to be assessed – and thesis to be written, no doubt - when contrasting this arcane behavior with Wisconsin’s raucous between-quarters "Jump Around," for example, but sidebars are only so long.

What's Changed: Offensive numbers here havebeen pretty stout of late, and are of such little consequence for predictive purposes, since the android-like precision of Manchurian Candidate Brady Quinn, Darius Walker, Jeff Samardzijaifasza, Rhema McKnight and four senior offensive linemen, obliterated by eligibility, begets at best a sort of ominous spark flashing in a smoldering stack of indistinguishable scrap. There is no defensible reason to fear this fall's potentially freshman-laden offense, no hidden indicator of strength or danger. And yet... and yet...

Weis has his depth chart, but just lost his appetite.
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Charlie Weis' molding of the eminently lackluster Quinn into something that so closely resembled a Most Outstanding finalist and top ten draft pick over two years was the work of a first-rate mad scientist, topped only by the conversion of the piddling, cloud-of-dust offense into a West Coast-y, multi-receiver passing threat, and where did it get him? No championships, no BCS wins, and now no quarterbacks, no running backs, one and a half receivers (David Grimes is borderline) and two linemen with a little experience. Square one.

Man for man, this offense will be more talented than either of the last two versions, if recruiting data is to be believed, but the only reliable faces are tight end John Carlson and tackle Sam Young, and it will be a year at least before Jimmeh Clausen or Evan Sharpley or whoever acquires the assembly line mechanics required to carry the offense without the support of a running game most often deployed as a change of pace - with Darius Walker and a veteran line working against defenses attuned to Quinn and the receivers, the Irish still only averaged a little under four yards per carry, and just 3.3 against winning teams. If this offense is going to succeed, it will have to improve that rate and become desperately possessive and sticky-fingered with the ball.

There is a big defensive change, too, in coordinator Corwin Brown, but we're coming that...

What's the Same: Three secondary holdovers - Terrail Lambert, Ambrose Wooden and Tom Zbikowski - return, the latter two as third-year starters severely maligned for their perceived tendency to give up big plays against the best receivers the past two years. A warranted perception? We can compare the Irish secondary's performance against those of its desired peer group last year:

Notre Dame Pass Defense vs. Top Ten, 2006
Comp. % 15+ 25+ Yds./Att. TD % Eff. Rank
Florida 53.3 69 15 5.6 2.2 4
Ohio State 58.3 50 12 5.7 2.4 10
LSU 47.3 47 15 5.2 3.0 3
Southern Cal 54.6 66 21 6.1 2.9 22
Boise State 57.2 56 21 6.4 4.3 33
Louisville 50.2 59 31 6.8 2.9 23
Wisconsin 47.8 35 11 4.7 1.6 1
Michigan 53.7 62 25 6.0 3.9 25
Auburn 54.8 47 19 6.5 3.8 30
West Virginia 57.4 81 31 7.4 4.0 63
Top 10 Avg. 53.5 57.2 20.1 6.1 3.1 21.4
Notre Dame 55.2 54 25 7.8 7.1 90

I'm not going to call Notre Dame "slow" back there, because Phil Steele lists Wooden as sub-4.3 and Zbikowski can be a blur with the ball in his hands in addition to knocking your cuticles off. He's listed at 4.3, too, while Lambert was a top 20 corner prospect out of high school and therefore, one would assume, a sufficient athlete. Simple foot speed does not appear to be the culprit. The defensive line also had 31 sacks last year, close to the top ten average (35) and better than Wisconsin, for example, whose significantly more lightly-recruited DBs were about as impenetrable as modern rules allow. The Irish didn't have to cover people for an unusually long time, in other words, or defend unusually confident, measured throws.


It's about taking the next step: from "in the picture" to "got a hand on him."
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But the big play knock clearly has legs beyond the anecdotal. A couple things stand out from the numbers above, aside from Notre Dame's ghastly pass efficiency defense rank - for one, opponents weren't really throwing at will, as evidenced by their perfectly mediocre completion percentage (55 percent), and weren't hitting a terribly large number of "explosive" plays (Louisville, Michigan and especially West Virginia gave up as many or more 25-plus-yard passes, yet came out way ahead in terms of efficiency). The two areas that really show up as problems are yards per attempt, where ND allowed a full yard more than any other team here except West Virginia, and opponents' touchdown percentage (the Irish allowed touchdowns on 7.1 percent of passes they faced), which is not even in the ballpark of anyone else on this list and ranks alongside the absolute worst in the country. Yards per completion (14.1, a good three yards above the average of the top ten above) kept the same company, with the likes of Buffalo, Utah State and Louisiana Tech. That's a lot of receivers running open, and it doesn't take so much research to remember who they were:
Calvin Johnson: 7 catches, 111 yds. (15.9), 1 TD
Mario Manningham: 4 catches, 137 yds. (34.3), 3 TD
Kerry Reed: 2 catches, 49 yards (24.5), 2 TD
Selwyn Lymon: 8 catches, 238 yds. (29.8), 2 TD
Marcus Everett: 6 catches, 102 yds. (17.0), 1 TD
Dwayne Jarrett: 7 catches, 132 yds. (18.9), 3 TD
Dwayne Bowe: 5 catches, 78 yds. (15.6), 1 TD (JaMarcus Russell also happened to complete two 58-yard passes in this game to Brandon LaFell and Early Doucet, respectively)

Four of those big games came in Notre Dame wins, three of them (Georgia Tech, Michigan State, UCLA) of the dramatic, come-from-behind variety. The variety that, given the wholesale lack of experience offensively, are more likely to go the other way without a significant reversal of this trend - and, per the game-saving Leinart-Jarrett fourth down bomb in South Bend in '05 and the Fiesta Bowl later that year, it's very safe to note the big play bug is more than a one-year anomaly. The experience here is a positive sign for improvement, but Brown's influence will have to be on par with DeWayne Walker's similarly NFL-infused overhaul against the run at UCLA if ND is supposed to have any hope of keeping those situations in its favor, and he will have to find a way to shore up the scheme without the significant pass rushing talents of Victor Abiamiri and the underrated Derek Landri. That could mean more blitzing, with a capital 'B,' and that stands for `burned.'

Overly Optimistic Post-Spring Chatter: Whatever Jeff Samardzijasifarama may think of the situation from his perspective in the minor leagues, the Spring game introduced one improbably-named Junior Jabby as the clubhouse leader for the starting running back job. Or at least, you know, he's in contention with yo-yo'd, sometime-linebacker Travis Thomas and highly prized '06 recruit James Aldridge.

That's more than we know about the quarterbacks, about whom Charlie Weis would say at the end of drills, "None of the four I would say ever played themselves out of contention." So as far as an endorsement, there you go. Every pass during camp was recorded, its path to be traced in infrared with jeweler's glasses, until the final two are announced, possibly some time next week. The only relevant information about the competition to date for non-obsessives: G-Code disciple and recently arrested/cleared Demetrius Jones is the runner of the bunch, which is antithetical to the offense to date if he can't throw as well, but Weis is afraid enough of the current passing situation to gear the scheme towards "establishing toughness," etc., which the offense "started to get away from" last year, mainly because it didn't need it. And wasn't particularly good at it, unless you count games against the service academies.

Notre Dame on YouTube: Rudy is not a great movie, but perhaps it could have been with this five-year-old in place of Charles Dutton's groundskeeper:

Alas, child labor laws.

See Also: The real Rudy, and his one anti-climatic play against Georgia Tech in 1975 ... The four quarterbacks toss it around in the Spring, along with an, um, interesting exchange of ideas between Tom Zbikowski and John Carlson ... A couple Heisman winners, John Huarte and Roger Staubach, duel in 1964 ... And, of course, Knute Rockne fires 'em up.

Jimmy's got some new moves...Check Jimmy out...
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Best-Case: The first eight games are pretty unrelenting: at Penn State, at Michigan, at UCLA and against suspected juggernaut USC in South Bend, without even getting into Georgia Tech, Michigan State, Boston College and Purdue. That's a hell of a two-month run, and even in most optimistic terms, it's not reasonable to expect such a young team to do much better than breaking even. If Weis can coax one better than that out of them heading into a suspiciously easy November (Navy, Air Force, Duke, Stanford), he'll have earned new respect from this space with a 9-3 mark. A BCS bowl is not on the radar, but the Gator, maybe.

Worst-Case: It's so much easier to envision new guys being awful than good, and when thrust into an opening eight-game stretch in which they could be the underdog every week, it's easy to see things going very wrong, very fast. Michigan State and Purdue probably represent the best opportunities to avoid going completely winless before the process softens considerably, and ND might have to take both of them, or upset somebody else, to even have a bowl bid on the line down the stretch. The Irish were .500 or worse four of the six years prior to Weis' arrival, and could easily make a temporary stop back in 5-7 purgatory before expectations rise again.

Non-Binding Forecast: I don't see any way the bubble around a pair of BCS teams doesn't burst here in fairly spectacular fashion. Again, Notre Dame has taken so many of its close games the last two years - 3-0 in games decided by one score in '06 - but hasn't been nearly as competitive in losses. That's a potentially ugly trade-off: two or three close, come-from-behind wins can become losses with such little experience on hand, but there are no corresponding close losses to "turn" that might balance that. Even given a very likely 4-0 finish, a final line of 7-5 - meaning three wins among the first eight - seems rather generous at this point to power of the brand.

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Previous Absurdly Premature Assessments...

Star-divide

March 12: Tulane March 13: Baylor March 16: UCLA March 20: Kentucky
March 21: Oregon March 22: Arizona State March 23: BYU March 27: Missouri
March 28: Troy March 29: Iowa State April 3: Alabama April 4: Akron
April 5: Cincinnati April 9: UL-Monroe April 10: Army April 11: Syracuse
April 18: Florida April 20: Southern Miss April 25: Southern Cal May 1: North Texas
May 3: SMU May 8: Nevada May 14: Tennessee May 21: TCU
May 24: Notre Dame May 29: UAB May 30: Georgia

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Nice assesment...
...oh how I long to see a 4-8 Notre Dame this year.  When Rutgers signed the deal to play a series with them starting in 2010 all of us Rutgers fans were wondering whether we'd be up to the challenge by then.

Now I'm pretty sure we would have smoked them last year, and I just wish that we played them this year, both to see them get manhandled, and to help out RU's crappy OOC schedule...

by David K on May 25, 2007 9:55 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK, settle down tough guy
David K/Rutgers, have you seen what your average talent level looks like?

You don't have the horses to do what LSU or USC did to ND.  Notre Dame would NOT have lost to Rutgers last year.  Not even close.

SMQ, good assessment, here's a couple of things you overlooked.

  1. Its year 3 of Charlie Weis' career.  Historically, for all the legendary ND coaches that means something.  In Wall Street terms, Buy low, sell high.
  2. What's the record for the underdog in the ND vs. UM series?  Hint: if you're expected to win, don't bet on your team.
  3. This ND team, when compared to ND's 1987 team, is perceived very similarly by the media.  When ND's preseason is given this kind of point of view in the media, historically, what happens during the season?
  4. How many games has ND lost in the last 2 years to the underdog? ONE.  MSU in CW's first season at ND. ND does not lose games they are supposed to win.  They  play smarter than that.  They've come close to stealing an underdog game or two.  Now there are players that have been in the system 3 years.  That's more experience than you think.  In fact, that's more experience than ND has had in the last 2 years.
  5. What's CW's record when compared to ND's other coaches through history?  What's CW's scoring point differential when compared to ND's other coaches throughout history.  Go back and read point 1 again.
7-5 is not good enough.

by atepesm on May 25, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

re "tough guy"
Disclosure: I'm a Michigan fan.  However, last year I thought that ND would be really good and would beat UM.

Point by point:

  1. All of the key players from last year being gone is more important than that this is the 3rd year of an ND coach's tenure.
  2. This year's UM-ND matchup looks like 2003.  ND rebuilding with a very green offense and a questionable defense, UM returning a loaded offense.  I'm not predicting 38-0 again as UM's defense also loses most of its key players, but I'm expecting something like 38-17.  I'll tip my hat to the Irish if they keep it close.
  3. That's a reach.  Again, the more relevant point is that ND is replacing all its playmakers with green players.
  4. Legitimate point.
  5. Again, Weis' point differential over the last 2 years was accomplished with an experienced offense that has moved on.

by snowcrash on May 25, 2007 3:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RE: #4...
Legitimate point that ND does not lose games they are supposed to win...but there are only four or five games this year I would say they're "supposed" to win. Outside of the easy last four, they're underdogs to Michigan and USC, no questions asked, probably also to PSU, and I'd say to G-Tech, Boston College and UCLA. You may dispute that, but on paper, all of those teams are obviously better than Notre Dame this fall (and in May, yes, games are played on paper); it's only a question at all because of the Notre Dame "brand." Michigan State and Purdue are toss-ups I put in ND's favor for the same reason. I don't think I'm being stingy to give the Irish three of those games.

Don't forget how close (G-Tech, Mich. State, UCLA) Notre Dame was to being 7-5 last year WITH Quinn, Walker, Samardzija, McKnight, et al.

by SMQ on May 25, 2007 6:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rutgers
I'm an Irish fan living in NYC, but last year I rooted for Rutgers to succeed.  The Louisville game was truly an amazing moment for the school.  However, when Rutgers "fans" (who were notably invisible for the last, say, 30 years) start talking about how great Rutgers was/will be, it's a bit much.  First off, they had a magical season -- no doubt about it.  But they played WAY above their talent level and Schiano will have to "chop wood" (yikes) for years before they have a consistently good program.  I know they scored that big lineman Davis last year, but their recruiting classes the past four years have been dreadful to decent (yes, I know recruiting ratings aren't the be all, end all, but they are relevant to success -- see USC, FL).

Also, their schedule is a joke.  Buffalo, Howard, Norfolk State (who knew they had a team?) and the Big East creampuffs (except Louisville and WVU) make for easy 8 win teams.  Yes, I know the Irish play the service academies and added Duke to the schedule, but if you think Rutgers could play at PSU and Michigan, and host USC, Michigan State and GT and come out unscathed, well, you're wrong.  

So keep on thinking that Rutgers would've crushed ND or will be in the hunt for years to come.  Hell, that's what TCU, Fresno State, K-State, etc. fans thought the last few years (all were recently ranked high for one year).  But the truth is that Schiano will probably replace JoePa at some point, and Rutgers will never be a powerhouse.

p.s. I hope ND goes 8-4 this year, but they won't be under .500.    

by murphmd on May 25, 2007 3:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A few comments
Overall, an outstanding preview considering that SMQ has neither the time nor the vested interest in ND to soak up every bit of information out there.  That said, I do have a couple of nitpicks.

First, ND will not be as depleted along the OL, as 2 starters are returning (C John Sullivan is coming back for a 5th, his 3rd as a starter).  Also, the projected LT, Paul Duncan rotated with Sam Young at RT during the year.  

Second (and as alluded to in the article), the OL in 2007 should have more raw talent, and more importantly, depth leading to competition for starting spots.  Weis has begun to address this through recruiting at a position his predecessor tended to overlook.  There are only 2 OL in the Sr. and Jr. classes combined, 3 if you include Sullivan; in fact, ND had only 7 scholarship OL on campus last spring (one of whom was an early entry freshman).  Last year, ND was pretty much forced to start whatever warm bodies they could find along the OL; including a certain G who spent as much time in the backfield as Quinn when facing top-notch DTs (Alford, Branch, Dorsey).

Second, ND will have its best depth at TB in about 5 years (T. Thomas, Jabbie, a healthy Aldridge, and possibly EE Armando Allen).  I'd say the running game is expected to be the strength of the offense this year, which should make it easier for whomever the new QB is.

As for the predicted losses, I can't argue with Michigan and USC; GT and PSU seem reasonable, given the unknown state of the defense; but Purdue?  

To the Michigan fan who think this will be a 3 TD Michigan win due to ND's losses on offense--I'd say that Michigan's losses on defense will be more damaging in the short time.  Regardless of who is waiting in the wings, no one can expect to lose 4 AA defenders (and 7 overall) and not expect a dropoff.  I will be the first to admit (with the benifit of hindsight) that ND was way overrated last summer; the loss of 2 OL from 2005 proved to be way more damaging than thought, and there weren't exactly a plethora of depth.  See my above paragraph on the OL.  ND is replacing their offensive losses with players that are more talented; will Michigan be replacing their defensive AAs with even more talented underclassmen?

For the Rutgers fan who thought that the Knights would have blown out ND--get real.  Unlike Michigan, Ohio State, and LSU, Rutgers didn't have multiple first round NFL draft picks on their roster.  Despite the great strides Schiano has made, the best HS players in NJ still leave the state (Jarrett, Toal, Cushing, Trattou, Kamara, Ragone, Hendricks, Rolle, Perez), and they aren't stealing the cream of the crop from other states.  Coaching is a big part of the game, but so is talent.  And Rutgers doesn't have alot of it.

by Ralph Cifaretto on May 30, 2007 12:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ralph:
I guess we'll see what happens soon enough.

I fully expect M's defense to drop off, which is why I predicted a closer game than in '03.  However, most defensive positions usually have a shorter learning curve than offensive positions, especially QB.  

Re the new starters, raw talent might be a wash: I don't expect any of the new DTs to be another Branch, we have a freshman CB who may have more raw talent than Hall, Harris was an overachiever in any case.  

by snowcrash on May 30, 2007 3:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ND-Michigan prediction
That's pretty magnanimous of you to say that ND will stay within 38 points this year.

by Ralph Cifaretto on May 31, 2007 11:21 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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