Mississippi State: So Repulsive...and Yet, I Can't Look Away
Fact: if Vanderbilt wins one of its last two against Tennessee or Wake Forest, the SEC will have eleven bowl-eligible teams. This is unusual historically, but not this year: the ACC has "only" seven eligible teams at the moment but a chance at ten if Miami, Maryland and/or NC State each win one of their last two; ten of eleven are already eligible in the Big Ten; Louisville needs one more win and Pittsburgh two to give the Big East seven minimally qualified teams out of eight. And none of them, under the circumstances, is as unlikely as Mississippi State, and possibly none as plainly ugly.
State can't win the SEC West - the Bulldogs can technically tie LSU, if they beat Arkansas and Ole Miss and the Tigers impossibly lose to the same two teams in successive weeks; then, there's still the matter of the 45-0 opening night beatdown in Starkville backing LSU's already-secured position in the SEC Championship - and thank heaven for that. By whatever measure you put on the table, the Bulldogs are the bottom dwelling laughingstock we've come to know and mock through Jackie Sherrill's last three seasons in Starkville and Sylverster Croom's first three, none of which resulted in more than three wins, or more than two in the SEC.
| Offense | Rush Yds. | Per Carry | Pass Yards | Rating | Scoring* |
| 2004 | 149.5 | 4.4 | 141.4 | 91.1 | 13.9 |
| 2005 | 113.0 | 3.3 | 137.4 | 86.9 | 9.8 |
| 2006 | 87.1 | 2.6 | 187.5 | 98.9 | 15.0 |
| 2007 | 128.7 | 3.2 | 125.0 | 86.6 | 15.8 |
| Defense | Rush Yds. | Per Carry | Pass Yards | Rating | Scoring* |
| 2004 | 219.8 | 4.7 | 188.8 | 131.6 | 27.5 |
| 2005 | 152.3 | 3.9 | 197.5 | 127.9 | 22.9 |
| 2006 | 99.5 | 3.1 | 227.0 | 140.7 | 25.1 |
| 2007 | 165.0 | 4.2 | 190.8 | 109.7 | 26.0 |
* Scoring does not include defensive or special teams touchdowns.
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The team is better in one respect, pass efficiency defense - opposing quarterbacks this year are completing a lower percentage of their passes for far fewer yards per attempt - but that hasn't reduced opponents' scoring overall and hasn't been accompanied by noticeable improvement in any other area. MSU still can't throw (it's last in the SEC in passing and total offense and 117th nationally in passing efficiency despite a dramatic improvement in sacks allowed; the Bulldogs' long pass in any of their wins is just 33 yards, against Tulane), can barely run, and is cumulatively about 100 yards and 10-12 points per game worse than the rest of the league on average, which is exactly the margin by which Arkansas is favored to win this weekend in Fayetteville. This sounds about right.
Why, then, was my first reaction to thiscomment, left Wednesday about my decision to rank Kentucky at all, to disagree:
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Yes, all is proceeding according to plan...excellent...excellent!
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Anyone who has watched these two teams play knows the comparison is ludicrous - Illinois has legitimate weapons on offense, has beaten more teams more soundly and been more competitive across its entire schedule than Mississippi State, which has needed timely turnovers to salvage abysmal offensive efforts in the upsets over Auburn and Alabama. Illinois lined up and ran its offense and defense and beat Ohio State down-to-down, and no one can conceive of Mississippi State doing the same thing. And we don't have to imagine it: in the same situation against a top-ranked conference overlord to start the season, we saw MSU trounced in the aforementioned laugher against LSU. If you get any more specific than wins and losses, Mississippi State is still a bad team - statistically, anecdotally, aesthetically (yes; just try to watch the offense).
Those are the means. But if Mississippi State beats Arkansas Saturday, it will be favored to beat Ole Miss (0-6 in-conference) in the Egg Bowl, and if it does that, too, these will be the ends: 8-4, 5-3 in the SEC, tied for second place in the West with the Auburn-Alabama winner with tiebreakers over both and a passable shot at the Cotton Bowl.
So when we say (and I do mean "we") Mississippi State is an awful team, are we talking about the means or the ends? You can apply the same question to Virginia, UConn or any other "winning ugly" scrappers, but whatever other questions you ask, it can't be denied that - unlike UVA and UConn to date - Mississippi State has played a quality schedule and ostensibly succeeded against a significant portion of it. When assessing the value of beating the Dogs, or the demerits of losing to them, or where MSU might fit into the polls its own self, does it matter how it met those ends? Or only that they were met? Or would you like to see them try to slow down Darren McFadden first?
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by Year2 on Nov 15, 2007 12:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I still say...
I seem to remember last year's MNC also escaping narrow scrapes against so-so competition. See: Moss, Jarvis, blocked kicks by. So are we really talking about having "ugly" wins, or just having too many "ugly" wins, and how do you define that?
I do think that McFadden and Co. will be a true test for the Bulldogs, but what if Mississippi State beats them in the same "ugly" way? I think at some point you just have to say: "It might not look pretty, but they win."
After all, if we drop all those corny cliches we were told in childhood, isn't winning the game the main point of playing it?
by cocknfire on Nov 15, 2007 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
stats on Ark-MSU 2006
Rushing: Ark 128 - MSU 154
Passing: Ark 121 - MSU 208
YDS/play: Ark 4.6 - MSU 5.4
Turnovers: Ark 1 - MSU 2
T.O.P: Ark 29:34 - MSU 30:26
Final Score: Ark 28 MSU 14
McFadden 26 car. 100 yds, 1 Kickoff return TD
Jones 10 car. 39 yds
I'm not saying MSU will win, but we have a bit of statistical evidence that we can slow down McFadden enough for victory (Of course, since MSU hasn't beaten Ark since 1998, there's stats to show another loss, too). Surprisingly, Casey Dick was the one who beat us last year. That and a red-zone interception returned for a touchdown.
Felix Jones is also questionable for the game Saturday.
And I reiterate, we smoked Kentucky, so there is evidence that we can dominate quality teams.
by aconstipatedmonkey on Nov 15, 2007 2:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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