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PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE PAC TEN GAME BEHIND THE CURTAIN. NOTHING TO SEE HERE...

Update [2007-10-29 18:53:38 by SMQ]: I couldn't be happier for a post to be rendered moot so quickly:

Fox Sports Net and ESPN have agreed to distribute Saturday's game between No. 6-ranked Arizona State and No. 4-ranked Oregon at Eugene to a national audience.

Originally scheduled to be televised locally in Oregon and Arizona, the matchup of Top 10 teams will be televised to a national audience through the agreement of the two networks. FSN will air its production on FSN Arizona, FSN West and FSN Northwest in the state of Oregon. The Oregon Sports Network will distribute the game in the state of Oregon. ESPN will originate its own production to air in all other U.S. television markets not covered by the FSN telecast, including the state of Washington and Northern California. ESPN College GameDay also will originate from Eugene.
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Kudos to the twin Evil Empires of Disney and Murdoch for giving the people what they want. We will gratefully lick the blood of sweatshop children from their hands in hell.

You may still enjoy this morning's diatribe...
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The following unranked teams according to the latest BCS standings will be playing on national television or one of the major networks this weekend:

ESPN Georgia Tech vs. #11 Virginia Tech 7:45 ET Thursday
ESPN2 Nevada at Fresno State 8:00 ET Friday
ESPN Purdue at Penn State Noon ET
ESPN2 Iowa at Northwestern Noon ET
Fox Sports Nebraska vs. #8 Kansas 12:30 ET
VERSUS Kansas State at Iowa State 12:30 ET
NBC Navy at Notre Dame 2:30 ET
ABC/ESPN Cincinnati at #18 So. Florida 3:30 ET
ABC/ESPN Oklahoma State vs. #15 Texas 3:30 ET
ABC/ESPN Michigan State vs. #12 Michigan 3:30 ET
ABC/ESPN UCLA at Arizona 3:30 ET
Fox Sports Colorado vs. #9 Missouri 6:30 ET
ABC Florida State at #2 Boston College 8:00 ET
ABC Texas A&M at #6 Oklahoma 8:00 ET
ESPN or ESPN2 Oregon State at #19 USC 8:00 ET
ESPN or ESPN2 South Carolina at Arkansas 8:00 ET
Fox Sports Wash. State at California 10:00 ET

There are two games between ranked teams. One is LSU at Alabama, which can be seen nationally on CBS at 5 p.m. Eastern. The other is a top five matchup with direct implications on the Pac Ten championship, the Rose Bowl and in all likelihood the mythical championship game, Arizona State at Oregon, which can be seen...if you live in Arizona or Oregon...on Fox Sports Arizona or Fox Sports Northwest, neither of which, unless you live in Arizona or Oregon, you have probably ever heard. Otherwise, you can order the game on pay-per-view through ESPN Gameplan.

This wouldn’t be a big deal in 1974, when there was no such thing as cable and basically no way viewers couldn’t miss the biggest game of the weekend – and, based on the records, rankings and potential implications here, one of the three or four biggest games of the season – if it wasn’t in their particular region. Cable TV more than anything else has made the sport a truly national game over the last two decades, has found a way to get the best teams and best games in front of consumers, yet still finds itself in a situation that somehow gives us the three mediocre, of-regional-interest-only Pac Ten games highlighted above instead of the one that might draw and hold a national audience. Which will instead be watching USC and Oregon State jockeying for Sun Bowl position.


Dennis Erickson wants you to get up right now, sit up, go to your windows, open them and stick your head out and yell: "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"
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I understand these things are worked out well in advance, when it’s assumed that USC and Cal and possibly even UCLA – to draw the L.A. market if nothing else – are the marquee teams. But on this point, Oregon partisan Dave from Addicted to Quack is right, as many Pac Ten fans have been on this subject: the conference’s TV package is a travesty. Outside of FSN, which is frankly second rate, airs games past midnight in the East and still puts priority on regional coverage (sometimes preempting games at bizarre times) because it draws almost no games of national interest, the Pac Ten has had six games on national television this year: Tennessee at Cal, Oregon at Michigan, USC at Nebraska, USC at Washington, Washington State at USC, USC at Notre Dame. Dramatic barnburners none, and good teams from Arizona State, UCLA and Oregon State are nowhere to be found. They’re all likely to win eight games, yet remain a mystery to most of the country. This will never happen to the SEC or Big Ten, each of which gets about half its conference to a national audience on a weekly basis. Hell, Southern Miss has played on ESPN four times in the last five weeks – people who pay attention are no doubt more familiar right now with pick-throwin maestro Stephen Reaves than they are with Rudy Carpenter. (I feel for these people, and, I hope, they for me)

Dave is also right that this isn’t only a matter of getting consumers the best games, but getting voters the teams they’re casting ballots on. This is, unfortunately, still a sport that makes postseason decisions based on prestige, and more than voters simply not being able to watch the Pac Ten’s contenders very often (or, in Arizona State’s case, at all), it’s simply not prestigious to play all of your games on Fox Sports or one of its regional sentinels. The biggest games have always been on the networks or, these days, at least ESPN, for everyone to watch. These games are shown in press boxes, where writers can pay some attention (and they do). Everything else is extraneous, a luxury for the diehard fan who can’t miss his mediocre team or doesn’t mind watching the chaffe, as long as it’s football. But these games don’t matter in the national picture, they’re just scores, grist for the mill when it comes time to submit the ballot. The real contenders, you don’t have to guess or search for them – networks clambor to put them in front of any set of eyes that care to see. How many voters subscribe to ESPN Gameplan? How many of them give a second thought to any of the games on it?

It will help this week that Gameday is going to be on hand at Autzen, so it will be that much harder to ignore. There’s still no reason anyone who might be interested should have an excuse for ignoring one of the games of the year to begin with.

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The SEC at least got the TV thing right. TV games aren't decided much more than about 8 days in advance as near as I can tell. And sometimes not even until "today's" game is complete. I've watched plenty of CBS SEC games that have Verne teasing next week with statements like "LSU-Alabama or Florida-Georgia, depending on how this game goes..."

CBS freely admits (and why shouldn't they) that they're going to show the top SEC game they can get.

Then ESPN gets their pick, then it's to Lincoln Financial Sports.

I honestly think that this type of TV "planning" is what has made the SEC so high-profile over the last few years. They always make sure that (at least) the two best games in conference are on national TV each week.

by talb on Oct 29, 2007 1:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't agree more
....with both SMQ and talb.  And that's one of the many reasons I find the whole Big Ten Network experiment so perplexing.  I can't tell you how many of my (non-Big Ten affiliated) friends across the country have said "I'd like to have watched your team this weekend....but they weren't on TV here."  Why on earth, in this day and age, does the Big Ten think it's a good idea to LIMIT access to our teams?  Don't answer that - I know it's all about money and always will be.  But in the larger scheme of things, it seems incredibly short-sighted to me.  Our conference has enough PR problems as it is - the last thing we want to do is make it difficult for people to watch us play.  

by buckeyejla on Oct 29, 2007 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Ten network
The odd thing is that the Big Ten wasn't even the first conference to try this.  The Mountain West, for some bizarre reason, axed their TV deals with ESPN and FSN (if they had any to begin with; I know they were part of the Big Monday basketball deal on ESPN for a while) and started their own network, which so far has gone nowhere.  A few cable providers in the Rockies picked it up, but none of the satellite providers have, and the conference gets zero exposure outside of their region.  That makes it even more bizarre that the Big Ten would attempt similar shenanigans.  I could see where the Big Ten would think they'd have more success with it (since, you know, they're the Big Ten and not the Mountain West) but that doesn't make the idea any less stupid.  In this age, limiting your conference's exposure is the wrong way to go.

by Tom on Oct 29, 2007 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong about the MWC
on one major point.  They did not start their own network on their own.  They started it in conjunction with Comcast.  This is why you see MWC games on regional comcast sports networks and Versus (both owned by Comcast).  Not too much different from the BTN.  

by georgiablue on Oct 29, 2007 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For example...
...Ohio State has another opportunity to legitimize itself this weekend against Wisconsin.  But the only way anyone will know will be via the boxscore, thanks to the Big Ten Network (as an aside, apparently this is because ABC picked up OSU-Northwestern earlier in the year - no idea why that matters though).

by osuvandy on Oct 29, 2007 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally ridiculous
Absolutely ridiculous.  And, living here in Columbus, Ohio, I will not be able to view this game in my home, as I have Time-Warner, which is still a holdout to the Big Ten Network.

I could change, of course, to one of the competitiors who carry the network, but I'll go patronize one of the local watering-holes instead.

by TallBill on Oct 29, 2007 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTN
I think the payoff comes for the schools who wouldn't be otherwise televised. Big Ten teams now are guaranteed to get all of their home games shown, something that not all schools had. Coming from the perspective of this Northwestern fan, that's pretty appealing. We've been on the ESPN family of networks twice this season (once on ESPNU - which somehow I still don't get even though I have GamePlan) - I'm positive that at least two of our non-conference games wouldn't have been on otherwise, even with ESPN+.

I think that's even more true once basketball season kicks in.

I also don't think that they'd have had so many problems getting it on all the major cable providers. Part of that is hubris, part of that is that cable company executives (read: Comcast) are fairly evil in their own right.

 

by RotoJeff on Oct 29, 2007 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

USC-Oregon
Yep.  I was really frustrated not to be able to see USC-Oregon this past weekend.  The only matchup between two top ten teams, and it can't get a slot, even with all the other crappy games being shown.

Hard to believe in this day and age, with as many channels as we have, that the top matchup can't get a nationwide broadcast slot.

by TallBill on Oct 29, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

USC-Oregon was nationwide
but it was on Fox Sports Net. I'm not sure all carriers have FSN, but they should have had USC-UO and ASU-Cal if they did (I wasn't around a TV for the former, but I did get the latter and usually get late night Pac Ten games where I live, which is not near Pac Ten country).

by SMQ on Oct 29, 2007 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't have it
Nope, we don't have it.  I have about 140 channels through Time-Warner, and there was no USC-Oregon.  Biggest game of the weekend.

by TallBill on Oct 29, 2007 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two FSN Games
At least where I'm at (near Pasadena), there were simultaneous FSN games. I think Fox Sports West showed Arizona-Washington at the same time that FSN showed USC-Oregon. I have DirecTV, though, so I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

by RotoJeff on Oct 29, 2007 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm glad I have Direct TV
And having Direct TV is something that I treasure so much at the place I live at during the school year.  I don't even know if I have Fox Sports NW or Arizona ordered, but I hope that I can get this game!  Will try and find that out beforehand.

FYI, the "preempting games" link is broken

Red and Black Attack http://niusports.blogspot.com

by Breezy on Oct 29, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks, Dawg
Should be fixed now.

by SMQ on Oct 29, 2007 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh-huh.
i love my directv.

if you get the sports package, you get all of the regional FSN networks, meaning that i will get to watch the arizona state-oregeon game. YAY!

plus, directv has the BTN, so i get to see all of those games.

by rockchalk on Oct 29, 2007 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oregon-ASU to be nationally televised
http://www.pac-10.org/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/102907aag.html

Looks like the rest of the country will be able to watch the biggest game of the week after all.

by jtlight on Oct 29, 2007 6:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually...
The Oregon State blowout loss to Cincinnati was on national TV.  Thursday night but still national.

by DWBBham on Oct 30, 2007 4:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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