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I did a few schedule breakdowns this spring for a series of magazines on shelves this summer, a couple of which focused on teams with Minnesota on the docket. About the Gophers, I suggested in the first line, without hesitation,

There is no possible pretense, no rosy rhetoric in the language capable of spinning Tim Brewster’s debut in a positive light.
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Negative thought? That's a lap.
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By any objective standard, off the school's best five-year stretch since World War II under Glen Mason, this is a true statement. Alas, I underestimate the reach of boundless optimism. If you want it to be true, you must first believe that it is true, and only then will it achieve truth:

...the guy remains as buoyant and invigorated as the day he got the job. You listen to Brewster for an hour in his office and you leave wanting to go into a three-point stance and tackle someone.

Still, the fact remains that his Gophers were 1-11 last season.

"That one-win season very easily could have been a six-, seven-win season, easily," Brewster is quick to say. "We lost six games by a total of 23 points. We were in three overtime games. But to me, in the building of the program and understanding this process, it was what it was.

"Obviously, the 1-11 record last year was the toughest thing we had to handle; it was extremely tough on all Gopher fans, particularly me. But I really believe this with all my heart: the two steps we took back last year in wins and losses, we're going to make up for and step forward in the very near future.

"That's because our brand, our style of play has allowed us to recruit at a level that maybe hasn't been done here."
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O Rly? Minnesota was indeed in three overtime games – it lost two of them, to Bowling Green and Northwestern, and won the other, against the Ohio-based Miami. The Gophers had two other close losses, by three points at Florida Atlantic and by six against North Dakota State, which ran for 400 yards in the Metrodome. So, technically, Brewster is right: keeping the Miami, Ohio overtime in the win column, Minnesota was a few plays away from winning four more games against an also-ran from the MAC, the tenth-place team in the Big Ten, a team from the Sun Belt and a team that was ineligible for the I-AA playoffs because it was in a "reclassifying" year from Division II. So close.

Meanwhile...

Star-divide

The Gophers were outscored in their other seven Big Ten games by 17 points per game. They were, infamously, last in the conference in almost every possible way, particularly on defense – last in rush defense, last in pass defense, last in pass efficiency defense, last in third down defense, last in fourth down defense, last in yards allowed, last in points allowed, last in sacks, last in tackles for loss, last in turnovers forced, last in time of possession. At least, by holding Wisconsin to just 453 yards total offense in the finale, Minny avoided the title of "Worst Defense of the Decade," moving one yard per game behind the 2002 Eastern Michigan Eagles for the gold standard in contemporary generosity.

(Gopher partisans might try to claim that game, a seven-point loss, and the preceding five-point loss to Iowa – the only big Ten offense that failed to score four touchdowns vs. Minnesota – were close games, as well, but both included late Gopher touchdowns that made the score closer than necessary and subsequent failed onside kicks. And we know the rule, per MGoBlog: anytime you're only an onside kick away, you're not really that close).

Brewster also does not understand why bringing a patch of Rose Bowl turf from Pasadena to spring practice – to a team that went to seven bowl games in eight years under his predecessor but hasn't been to the Granddaddy since the early sixties – is being held against him as, like, a prediction:

"Now, never one time did I ever say last season we're going to the Rose Bowl, this season we're going to the Rose Bowl. This is what we want to do, this is the expectation level of our team, and I want it to be the expectation level of our fans."

Nothing wrong with that. But then 1-11 happens, and some people begin to realize that talk is cheap.

"But how can talk be cheap when you didn't say that's what you were going to do?" Brewster said.
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Well, as long as he didn't say it, that puts the season in an entirely different light. I can't be certain – I was not at any alumni events, recruiting trips, media days or pep rallies – but I can say that whatever talk Brewster did engage in did not include the phrases "1-11," "loss to North Dakota State" or "worst Big Ten defense of the decade." I dunno, though. Maybe he did say that's what they were going to do. Which would, as Brewster says, make that talk not cheap, but right on the money, if he said the team was going to achieve those results. If he said, "we're going to be the worst team in school history," that talk would not be cheap. It would, indeed, have extremely high predictive value in a way that enthusiastically unfurling a piece of pristine St. Augustine from the Rose Bowl was never intended to.

But re: recruiting, the one aspect of the game where talk can make you a king: Ya Rly. In this regard, to everyone's surprise, Brewster is right to be enthusiastic and quietly optimistic. Despite the record, he landed two transfers from Notre Dame, then brought in a near-consensus top 25 class with four-star players from California, Texas, New York and Indiana and two guys in Rivals' top 250, including MarQueis Gray, the site's number three "dual-threat" QB and maybe a borderline top ten guy among all incoming quarterbacks, depending on who you ask. Those are all good signs of incremental progress, and clearly Brewster has learned his lesson about raising people's expecta–

"We changed our style of play, which allowed us to recruit what I feel is the No. 1 quarterback in America. You think the No. 1 quarterback in America (MarQueis Gray of Ben Davis High in Indianapolis) would have been here in a different style? No, he wouldn't have. That's what people right now have got to be really excited about."
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All this excitement is going to kill the people. Or, you know, somebody.

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Well, as long as he didn’t say it, that puts the season in an entirely different light. I can’t be certain – I was not at any alumni events, recruiting trips, media days or pep rallies – but I can say that whatever talk Brewster did engage in did not include the phrases “1-11,” “loss to North Dakota State” or “worst Big Ten defense of the decade.” I dunno, though. Maybe he did say that’s what they were going to do. Which would, as Brewster says, make that talk not cheap, but right on the money, if he said the team was going to achieve those results. If he said, “we’re going to be the worst team in school history,” that talk would not be cheap. It would, indeed, have extremely high predictive value in a way that enthusiastically unfurling a piece of pristine St. Augustine from the Rose Bowl was never intended to.

I laughed out lout there.

by gahnki on Jun 10, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From a longtime Gopher fan

There’s really nobody in the state – besides Brewster, and I guess Charley Walters – that actually believes that the Gophers could have / should have won more games last year. Really, things couldn’t have gone worse; I don’t think I feel much better about 1-11 than I would have about 0-12.

The mistake that’s usually made by non-Gopher followers, I think, is to assume that everything was wine and roses during Glen Mason’s tenure. Mason’s teams never once were better than 5-3 in the Big Ten, never once finished higher than fourth, and never once finished only one game behind the conference champion. And only twice – 1998 and 2003 – did the team even reach that 5-3 high-water mark. Six times in ten years, the team had a losing Big Ten record, including two of Mason’s final three years.

So Brewster’s first year was embarrassingly bad. But I’ll trade the usual 7-5 (3-5) / extremely minor Dec 28 bowl game season under Mason for Brewster, 1-11, a top-25 recruiting class – and for once, some damned optimism around here.

by Jon Marthaler on Jun 10, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Marquis Gray is very good. I certainly wouldn’t call him the best quarterback recruit in the nation but he is still very talented.

Is Adam Weber still going to be your starting QB?

by gahnki on Jun 10, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It does look that way.

Weber was highly inaccurate last year, and I didn’t see anything at the spring game that suggests that this has changed; he threw the ball over twenty yards in the air twice, with one getting knocked away and one going 15 feet over the receiver’s head.

That said, none of his backups (Clint Brewster, Mike Maciejowski, etc.) look any better, and I’m guessing that Gray will take a redshirt year, just to get acclimated (and also to avoid another looming 2-10-type season.)

by Jon Marthaler on Jun 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I’m a non-Gopher follower, but I do know that they haven’t been better than 5-3 in the conference in 35 years. So while Mason may not have been the Messiah, he did make a very average program a noticeably better one.

And what is the ultimate ceiling there? There was some room for a team to challenge the OSU-Michigan duopoly of the 70’s and 80’s and that has been filled, at least for the time being, by Wisconsin. I think given the situation and facilities he was working with Mason came pretty close to reaching the apex as least as far as the program was concerned. Now regarding individual seasons, he never seemed to have that breakthrough win (like Illinois beating OSU this year) that would have made those 7-4 seasons more palatable. And for that, I would think there is some legitimate criticism.

by DoubleB on Jun 10, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nobody expects Minnesota to knock Michigan and OSU down a peg. But Iowa won shares of the B10 title in 2002 and 2004; Wisconsin did it in 1998 and 1999. Northwestern, Purdue, Illinois, Penn State – all took at least a share of the conference title during Mason’s tenure. As I pointed out above, Minnesota not only never reached that level, they never even came close, and after ten years of Mason it became clear that they never would under his mediocre coaching.

As I alluded to above, the reaction of most people not intimately familiar with the program was, “Geez, why fire Mason? What do you Gopher fans want? You should be happy that you even won a game!” Well, like fans at eight other Big Ten schools during those ten years, we want a conference championship. And if we’re ever going to get there, after (now) 41 years of waiting, a change had to be made.

by Jon Marthaler on Jun 10, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never close? They lost to Wisconsin by 3 in 1999, a win that would have made a 4-way tie for first atop the Big Ten at 6-2. In 2003, they did the exact same thing only this time the loss was to Michigan. If Minnesota wins either of those games, you get your conference championship (albeit shared with the world). If he had won either of those would he still have the job today and would you personally want him to have it?

As I stated above there might be some legitimate criticisms on a game by game basis (they blew a 21-point 4th quarter lead in the Michigan game above, for instance). But twice he’s left a program in better shape than when he inherited it (Kansas). And, at least in Minnesota’s case, he did it with one of the worst D-1 stadiums in college football and no recruiting base.

And again I’m not criticizing the firing nor the desire of Gopher fans to want to win a conference championship. But again what was the legitimate ceiling of the Gopher program during the Mason years (with that stadium). I believe most Gopher fans thought it should be Wisconsin. I think it’s Purdue (a team that won their title at 6-2).

by DoubleB on Jun 10, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, a big reason why Glen Mason wasn’t seriously considered for the Ohio State job (he’’s an alum) was that inability to put a program over the top. You’ve seen people like Urban Meyer, Jim Tressel, Les Miles, etc. do it for lower level programs that may not have had a history of success. Glen Mason was seen as a coach who could do good but not great things. And his recruiting was horrendous for the most part.

by gahnki on Jun 10, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles?

What did Les Miles do at Oklahoma State besides upset OU twice? His best record was 9-4 in 2003, both the most wins and fewest losses of his tenure, but he followed that in 2004 with a 7-5 year. That may be good for Oklahoma State, I guess, but winning 9 games at OSU is not anywhere near winning four national titles in I-AA like Tressel did or going undefeated and taking Utah to the Fiesta Bowl like Meyer did. It’s not even the same as Mack Brown winning 10 games three times at UNC.

Don’t get me wrong, Miles has been great at LSU; he just didn’t Oklahoma State “over the top” of anything during his time there. Maybe if he stayed more than 4 years he might have, but if you remember, a lot of people questioned his hiring by LSU at the time because he hadn’t really distinguished himself in Stillwater.

by Year2 on Jun 11, 2008 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, you are completely right. I should not have lumped Miles in with the rest.

by gahnki on Jun 11, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mediocre Mason

Mason did do a fine job of taking us from terrible to average but he was content. Much of his problem was he was quick to remind us how bad it was so we would be accepting of mediocrity. Truth is he couldn’t get a team over the top and he abandoned what recruiting base he had in MIN.

While MN doesn’t have quantity to fully sustain a program in recent years it has had guys like James Laurinaitis (OSU), several guys to Notre Dame in recent years, Wisconsin/Iowa have had their pick from MN and last year Rivals top 250 guys Will Mobley (Michigan) and Michael Floyd (Notre Dame). His base here wasn’t huge but he consistently let 75% of the D1 players get away.

Mason was fine but if this program was ever going to take another step it was time for a change.

by GopherNation on Jun 11, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mobley is going to Ohio State, not Michigan.

by gahnki on Jun 11, 2008 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The

thing with Mason is that he probably managed to piss off every high school coach in this state. He wasn’t an ambassador for the program, when the U was trying to hard to get a new stadium, they brought in Tony Dungy. Mason had a very poor relationship with the local media. Maybe he realized he was in college football hell and was just trying to manage not saying stupid things in public.

I was at the 2003 Minnesota Michigan game where the Gophers gave up 31 points in the fourth quarter. Mrs Corn Nation and I decided to go for our wedding anniversary. I swear there’s something in the Minnesota state constitution that decrees the defense must drop eight and rush three when the Gophers get up by double digits – maybe that’s the best explanation for the Gophers inability to play good defense no matter who the coach is.

The North Dakota State loss is a blight on the program. Minnesota continues to be embarrassed every time a midwestern state plays them at home because the Metrodome filles with iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, or Wisconsin fans.

The state cares not for college football as a whole, it’s as having a winning football team would diminish them academically. GIven that attitude, they’ll suck for eternity and not care much about it.

Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!

by Jon Johnston on Jun 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When Iowa finished the Big Ten season 8-0 by winning at the Dome (same year OSU won the mythical championship), a bunch of Iowa fans rushed the field and took one of the goalposts.

That would never happen at Northwestern, for crying out loud.

I’m not certain it’s that the state doesn’t care about college football – I think it’s the shared off-campus stadium more than anything (there’s nowhere to tailgate). And if the basketball scandal under Haskins is any indication, academics isn’t the reason for the apathy. That said, Minnesota is probably the only school that fields a D-1A football team that consistently takes a back seat to the hockey team – hockey season tickets go for at least 5x the price of football season tickets (especially when the Wisconsin game is at Camp Randall).

by SpartanDan on Jun 11, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they took the goalpost but couldn’t get it through the revolving doors of the Metrodome (true story).

by GopherNation on Jun 11, 2008 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I was at the game. Stayed til the end. Was in the dome long enough for a drunken Iowa fan to threaten my 8 months pregnant wife. Walk down to the lower level. Meet up with friends. Leave the dome. At at that time more than 10 minutes AFTER the game was over and the Gophers had been off the field, the brain trust running the metrodome, in an effort to clear the field turned on a siren to annoy the non drunken Hawkeye faithful celebrating in the stadium.

As a result, some Hawkeye fans pulled down one of the goal posts.

This is hardly storming the field and tearing down the goal posts. This story gets better every year. Was it embarrasing? Yes. Did they “storm the field” to tear down the goal post? no. Is it even our stadium? No, but we do play games there.

by mn go4 on Jun 11, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A bad start doesn't mean a bad finish,

particularly if the head coach is a great recruiter. Tim Brewster is an outsanding recruiter. The 2008 class incoming is the best they’ve had in… forever. He’s largely responsible for recruiting Vince Young to Texas.

I’d also remind you that Mack Brown not only had a one-win season in his first year at UNC, he also only won one game the second season he was there. By the time he finished there, his teams had two consecutive Top 10 AP Poll finishes, at a school that traditionally doesn’t give a shit about football.

by sessamoid on Jun 11, 2008 2:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

still feeling OK

The difference, and this is a biggie to me, is that I never saw a Brewster team quit like I saw Mason’s teams quit seemingly every game. Yes, we were 1-11 last season. No, I’m not happy. But I think 1-11, and playing from behind and getting back into the game in the fourth quarter several times, is a good sign.

Brewster seems as though he might be made of tin. The team had a heart that I hadn’t ever seen under Mason.

And then, yeah, recruiting.

I remain very cautiously optimistic.

by Erik T on Jun 11, 2008 10:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When you lose to North Dakota State and FAU and were outgained in both (badly, in the case of NDSU), and lost four of your Big Ten games by 20+, any optimism should be extremely cautious. (And if you never saw them quit, either they were truly incompetent against NW late or you didn’t watch that one. They blew a 21-point lead late in the 3rd quarter.)

Much like Illinois between ‘05 and ‘06, the Gophers will almost certainly improve. Trouble is, they could be much better than last year and still need to be incredibly lucky to make 4-8.

by SpartanDan on Jun 12, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a CU fan...

I feel for you. We weren’t as statistically horrendous in our 2-10 year as Wisconsin was, but we did lose to Montana St. Hawk isn’t the recruiter that Brewster is, but he is solid and given last years sort of of bowl worthy season and great class, it should be interesting where we go in the next few years.

That said, at least CU has a decent QB, something Wisconsin is still searching for unless Gray doesn’t red shirt. Good luck to you all, you might need it!

by FallenSkye on Jun 11, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Minnesota, Skye

Not Wisconsin. Although the Badgers are searching for a decent quarterback, too.

by SMQ on Jun 11, 2008 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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