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Take FIU...Please

No one can accuse SMQ of piling on the underdog: I'm an avowed mid-major fan who last year devoted 1,500 words and a running weekly item to Florida International, which stands at 1-3 as a favorite in six years of I-A play, straight up. We are all for the little guy.

Being bad on the field is one thing, and even among the tiniest dwarves of the Sun Belt, FIU has been horrifically bad. The Panthers finished 0-12 in in 2006, went a full calendar month without reaching the end zone in any fashion and ultimately averaged  less than a touchdown per game on offense. Under a new coach, they started 0-11 last year, losing their first eight by 33 points a pop en route to running up a 23-game losing streak that only ended with a new quarterback in the lineup and an equally impotent team, North Texas, wobbling into FIU Stadium in the finale (permanent seating is only 7,000 for now, but highlights include superb drainage and restrooms).


In retrospect, this may be a high point.
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But being that bad off the field is something else entirely, and FIU, if possible, has been even worse in the non-bodily-kinesthetic realm of its transition to the quasi-big time. Florida International is already an obscure, sketchy-sounding college (the spring roster lists a dozen players from hometowns outside the state of Florida, none remotely approaching "international" status) in what appears to be one of the sketchier areas of the sketchiest big city in America, and thus far it appears dedicated to the shiftless, swampy, laissez faire cliché. The football team is noted mainly for throwing down with Miami in the OB two years ago, thereby giving the world immortal soldier A'mod Ned, then losing a staggering nine scholarships in football alone in the first round of the NCAA's APR crackdown last summer, twice as many as any other program except San Jose State, which lost seven. Now this year's round of APR scores is out, and...
MIAMI -- Florida International was placed on four years' probation by the NCAA on Wednesday and will lose scholarships for a variety of infractions.

More than 40 athletes who competed for the school from the 2002-03 through the 2006-07 academic years violated rules, said Josephine Potuto, chairwoman of the NCAA committee on infractions.

The school, which jumped from NCAA Division I-AA to Division I-A, misapplied enrollment and financial aid rules, transfer requirements and eligibility rules, the NCAA found.

"The institution acknowledges that it was not ready for the move, at least from a compliance standpoint," Potuto said.

The men's basketball program lost one scholarship and its baseball program lost 1.5. The football program was stripped of three scholarships. In all, 11 sports lost scholarships.
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It seems FIU was "not ready for the move" in a lot of ways: failing on the field, failing in the classroom (in the bureaucratic aspect, at the very least), failing in the stands (attendance last year for five home games averaged 8,120, announced, barely half of what the NCAA requires of I-A schools over a rolling two-year period). All of which would be fine if the Panthers were sticking to the Sun Belt, where all the teams are just up from the minors and in that murky in-between stage that's really just I-A in name only.

Over the last two years, though, in which time the program is 1-23 and not even keeping its head above water, Florida International's non-conference schedule has included South Florida, Alabama, Penn State, Kansas, Miami (twice) and Maryland (twice). In 2006, `Bama and Miami both made bowl games with bare minimum, 6-6 records that included wins over FIU, clearly a glorified I-AA team, even though Miami already counted a win against an official I-AA team (Florida A&M) that year. Maryland finished last year at 6-6 with wins over I-AA Villanova and over FIU, both of which counted to get the Terps into the Emerald Bowl, even though only one I-AA opponent is allowed to count toward bowl eligibility and FIU has not met a single standard - not on the field, not off - for I-A eligibility. It doesn't really even qualify for "in-name-only" status. The sum impact of its football existence is to get a paycheck from marginal teams with some status in return for padding said teams' stats and records - Kansas, for example, which also beat the tar out of helpless I-AA Southeast Louisiana last year, built its awesome statsheet in part with a 55-point, 615-yard beatdown against the Panthers. Arkansas, which also had its way with I-AA Chattanooga, got a lesiurely blowout with its backups taking a hefty load of the snaps with FIU in for homecoming. This fall's schedule for FIU includes Kansas, Iowa and South Florida, all three of which have actual I-AA teams (Sam Houston State, Tennessee-Martin and Maine, respectively) elsewhere on their schedules.

FIU is not the only bad team, nor the only team that falls short of its various extracurricular benchmarks; most of the SBC and a dozen or so other perennialy feeble programs probably aren't worth the ink that sets them apart from the lower divisions. It is, for now, the worst on both fronts, and easily taken advantage of, like a sick, feeble herd that keeps on giving to the bigger, quicker predators in the bush. Is there any reason at all Florida International's continued existence in I-A does not constitute a dilluting of the sport's gene pool and a waste of its time?

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FIU's Name
The Florida university system pretty much ran out of normal names without combining directions (i.e. "Southeast" Florida). It already had Florida, Florida State, Florida A&M, North Florida, South Florida, and West Florida. No East Florida, but I think that may be because UF was once known as "East Florida Seminary." There is a Florida Tech too, but it's not public.

So, they started with the creative names - Florida Atlantic, Florida International, and Florida Gulf Coast University. I think it's only a matter of time before FGCU starts up a football program with delusions of grandeur too.

FAU at least had the good sense to hire an old good coach (Howard Schnellenberger) to build the program rather than chance it an NFL QB coach. I bet Galen Hall would have done it.

by Year2 on May 8, 2008 9:56 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

adfsd
Couldn't you have written the same thing about Temple or Buffalo recently or Rice (30 consecutive losing seasons at one point) 15 years ago or any number of other teams in past or recent times? FIU can turn it around and at least become competitive.

Year2 mentioned it briefly, but I don't think you can overstate how much of a disaster Don Strock's tenure was at FIU. Someone in the know described it to me as being run like a bad high school program. Cristobal has had to literally build up the program from scratch.

by DoubleB on May 8, 2008 10:42 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I think
the point was that the failure on the field is is just highlighted by the failure off the field.  

I.E.  Baylor, Duke, Stanford, Northwestern, or Vanderbuilt (or Bayfordukandywestern as I like to call the montster) all have some bad football right now... but you don't hear about them failing miserably in the APR as well.

by ThreeNout on May 8, 2008 10:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

True, but...
That may be true about Cristobal, but I-A is not the place to learn how to build a football program. That's what the lower divisions are for. Build first, then make the jump.

by Year2 on May 8, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Buffalo has already paid the price

Buffalo has already been where FIU is now. Shortly after they were elevated to D-I status they too had problems with eligibility and recruitment violations and lost several scholarships. Eventually, through some hard work and some tough times with some truly dreadful teams and a recruiting base that is not known for producing many quality players, the program pulled itself together, jettisoned the problems and is beginning to approach something resembling competitiveness if not respectability. I certainly cannot call my alma mater a good program but at least they are no longer an embarrassment. FIU right now is an embarrassment of monumental proportions. The difference is that FIU has no problems whatsoever getting big-name schools on their schedule. Buffalo has always been a tough sell, even when the Bulls were a guaranteed cakewalk.

It is certainly possible that FIU will collapse under its own incompetence and never recover. It is also possible that they will learn from the mistakes of today and become an average program a decade down the road, as Buffalo did. It is really all in how they handle the situation.

"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England

by Calvert on May 10, 2008 12:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

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I imagine that for really atrocious D-IA programs, the team functions more to serve as advertising for the school than anything else. Even if they don't win, at least you've heard of the place.

Think of it -- if it weren't for the football team, how many of you who have never lived in Florida would have heard of FIU?

by Alaska Hokie on May 8, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Throw Them Back
I think the APR may provide the cover the NCAA wants/needs to force a lot of schools out of Division I-A.

FIU and many schools in the MAC, Sun Belt, the WAC lack the resources to offer a truly competitive athletics program. They do not have the back office (i.e., compliance) or the front office (i.e., facilities) to perform the needed task.

Unfortunately, these schools rob resources from other athletics programs. St. Mary's boasts many successful programs now that it no longer has to support football.

A few summers ago, my promotions class discussed an article where UatB admitted it spent $25 million over a five year period in effort to launch a Division I-A football team.

My students wondered how many faculty and scholarships that $25 million could have provided. Everyone thought the money would have better spent on those things than on football.

I love football but the upper management at schools like FIU must be seriously questioned.

by milevin on May 8, 2008 5:19 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

SBC vs. C-USA

Before you go trashing the Sun Belt “most of the SBC and a dozen or so other perennialy feeble programs probably aren’t worth the ink that sets them apart from the lower divisions”, you may want to look at the record between FIU’s and Southern Miss’s conferences in the last two years. C-USA sent sacrificial lambs Memphis (who had already lost to MTSU and Arkansas State) and Rice to be slaughtered by FAU and Troy in the New Orleans Bowl in 2007 and 2006. C-USA’s 2006 champion Houston lost to a 6-6 ULL team, and SMU lost to 3-9 North Texas. Ask any Crimson Tide fan how eager they are to host Louisiana-Monroe again, or if 9-4 Virginia thinks it could pull off another field goal with 7 seconds left to win by 2 in Murfreesboro.
Perhaps FIU could find a more suitable home in C-USA, and heck, they might even be able to go bowling if they did.

by Hoofprints on May 10, 2008 12:28 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

FIU was a community college 10 years ago, and isnt much better academically now. It sure is impressive how they are throwing money around to manufacture themselves a university, but it isnt surprising that they are failing miserably at running the place. FIU is a joke. The street its on is named after Jose Canseco for Christ’s sake. Its incredible how they can manage to be so bad given the natural advantages they have in recruiting kids. Schnellenberger is already playing in Bowl games and was making runs in 1-AA before they made the jump. FIU just won its first game in two years.

I dont know what makes you think Cristoball is going to be the savior either. I mean I know why YOU think he will be, its because hes Cuban. But heritage aside, his chief qualification was being a position coach for 2 years under the worst coach in Division 1 football history. Good luck, bro, you’re going to need it.

I think the more likely scenario is that FIU will continue to survive on padding the bowl resumes of middle of the road legitimate universities, losing 10-12 games a year and then being bounced back to 1-AA.

Its a disgrace that parasite of a football program and joke of a school got to host the last football game in the Orange Bowl, especially after they picked that fight with us by ganging up on the kicker and making everyone forget how much off field progress we are making.

by NOLAcane on May 10, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs


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