Homerism: We Gotta Get Out of This Place
Sometime during the last season, looking at a conference schedule that included Rice, Marshall and a lot of unfamiliar anagrams (UTEP, SMU, UAB, UCF), a fellow Southern Miss expat disgustedly said he’d like to see Southern dump Conference USA and go back to the old days as an independent, when at least the team had a reputation for playing (and competing against) a schedule from hell. To him, C-USA in its current incarnation is for the birds – I mean, the other birds, that is, not eagles. Especially since we haven’t had the satisfaction of winning the damn jalopy in four years, or for another three before that. All USM is getting out of its affiliation is a crummy bowl tie-in (so we don’t feel bad about not going to a bowl, which would be too embarrassing) and dwindling attendance. Not only is the league unfamiliar and devoid of even a minor sense of rivalry since the migration and two-division shake-up in 2004; it’s just bad. And our proud program is getting progressively worse along with it. Standing alone and insisting on a brutal schedule would be a niche, at least. So the argument goes.
This will not happen. But apparently, the restless feeling is mutual. According to anonymous sources close to another longtime, better geographically-positioned C-USA member in the Hartford Courant, at least one team is willing to sell itself into indentured servitude for a chance to get out of this backwater:
...what if a deal too sweet to beat existed? Just for kicks, let's put one on the table in the form of, say, a job application. The school should be willing to:
• Play a conference football schedule with zero compensation from the Big East so current members don't have to give up any of their share of revenue.
• Be responsible for negotiating a television contract for home games until the league wants the school to be a part of its package.
• Not expect any of the league's BCS revenue until earning a BCS bid of its own representing the conference.
• Come in as a football member only. Other sports would play in another league in order to not interfere with the league's current 16-member setup for all other sports.
• Show a solid track record of putting fans in the seats at home, on the road and at bowl games — all on a trial basis for a few years.
Who would take that chance?
East Carolina.
Speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue, insiders with knowledge of East Carolina's position talked of doing all of the above.
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Hat Tip: The Wiz
[UPDATE] The Wiz catches an article that Memphis has been talking to the Big East , too, which comes as zero surprise.
This is just a couple days after a Middle Tennessee State fan indignantly posted below my critique of Florida International, talking shit about Conference USA re: the Sun Belt, for god’s sake, a conference that two years ago went 1-27 against non-I-AA outsiders. But look, the Sun Belt, 4-43 against the rest of college football in 2006-07, is 8-7 against C-USA in the same span, and before last year’s bowl games, Jeff Sagarin had the Sun Belt, the Independents and two I-AA conferences ahead of C-USA in his conference rankings (these have since been revised, but as the SBC’s only bowl team beat a C-USA team in the New Orleans Bowl, and C-USA overall was 2-4 in the postseason, I don’t know why). That’s how bad Conference USA is now. So if East Carolina and Memphis want out, I can’t blame them. At least the Pirates are in a position to make a run for it, geographically, and the Tigers are in position to compete in basketball.

Fly, little birds! Fly away to freedom!
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For some perspective, look at how quickly the place has been hollowed out. In the league’s first nine years of existence, from 1996-2004, C-USA teams won just shy of 30 percent of their games against teams from one of the six BCS conferences (59-138 by my count), a respectable mark given the circumstances. Louisville had a winning record, maybe thanks to an annual date with Kentucky, and so did TCU, albeit at just 4-3 during its short, noisy stay. During the same years, the Mountain West won 33 percent of its games against BCS conferences; these were very comparable leagues and their champion-on-champion tie-in with the Liberty Bowl was one of the best December games. From 1997-2004, the Conference USA champion was ranked entering the game all eight years (the only exception was 2003, when Southern Miss wasn’t ranked, though runner-up TCU was), with Tulane in 1998, USM in 1999 and Louisville in 2004 turning in top 15 finishes with zero wins over a winning BCS opponent between them. The Mountain West champion has been in the polls every year since 2001 with a similar death of major upsets. If voters didn’t pay much attention to these leagues, at least they saw some value in earning the championship.
With Utah, TCU and now BYU alternating big years, the MWC streak is still going. Since the mass exodus and restructure, Conference USA’s is long gone: none of the polls have touched a C-USA team since Louisville blew the rest of it to bits in 2004. I’m not sure how many votes the conference has received in the “also receiving votes” category, but they’re few and very far between. This has nothing to do with bias:
| Conference | vs. BCS Teams | Win % | vs. All Non-Con. | Win % |
| Mtn. West | 19-27 | .413 | 42-46 | .477 |
| WAC | 9-48 | .158 | 29-68 | .299 |
| C-USA | 9-69 | .115 | 33-86 | .277 |
| MAC | 11-84 | .116 | 19-92 | .171 |
| Sun Belt | 3-65 | .044 | 13-84 | .134 |
This exact trajectory was obvious enough when Miami and Virginia Tech left the Big East in a lurch and forced it to come a-courtin’ Louisville, Cincinnati and trailer-dwelling noob South Florida; I saw the writing on the wall then, as did TCU, which made a supposedly lateral move that’s left it in a much healthier, more competitive situation with BYU and Utah. Memphis has a market and a basketball team and Central Florida has a market and a huge student body; otherwise, there is not much upward mobility among the cluster of tiny private schools (Tulsa, Rice, Tulane, SMU) and geographically disadvantaged holdovers (Southern Miss, UAB, UTEP). It’s like football limbo. Judging from the onset of full-fledged, MAC-like, spread offense pinball last year, there’s no reason to be optimistic about this pattern.
This is not an argument that Southern Miss is too good for Conference USA, which would be difficult to make as USM has won the league only once in the last eight years, lost at least three conference games in seven of those years and finished a dismal fourth last year in the division it was unanimously predicted to win before the season. It’s more of an evaluation of this partnership: when East Carolina and Memphis, improbably one two of the more attractive members at the table at this point, are desperately looking for an escape route, it’s probably time to start drawing up an exit strategy of your own. Not for any immediate use. Just in case.
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Speaking as a fan of a MAC school...
...all I want to say to C-USA is, “Can we have UCF back, please? You can keep Marshall.”
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England
by Calvert on May 13, 2008 6:24 PM EDT 0 recs
being independent
would you stay in C-USA for other sports?
the weird thing is, in the mega-schedule era, the biggest logistical hurdle to being independent - filling out a schedule - is probably less of an issue than it’s been in years, although as an ND fan I must advise that you can still get into all sorts of strange situations wherein your schedule begins brutally and ends un-brutally… then again, this isn’t far from what USM has experienced in the past, although it may be more extreme
you would think that, at some point, someone in USM’s position will go this route in the hopes that they can build credibility and exposure for a 5 year run, then end up in the big east or whatever the next conglomeration is. Play a roving schedule (maybe even more road games than home), get on ESPN thursday night/wednesday night/friday night like 9 times, rinse, repeat… With SEC schools playing 1-AAs in November now, you might even get some CBS love if you time it right.
there’s really the potential to do some interesting things with an independent slate, including weird neutral site games against other southern schools (USM- Miss St. in Jackson!)
I don’t think anyone is going to USM because of the conference anyway, but because of the football credibility the program has. I think it could work…
by royalsreview on May 13, 2008 6:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Richard Giannini would like for you to please stop this
Giannini will tell you how wonderful and marvelous the current C-USA configuration. It sucks out loud. Thank God Bower is now gone, at least there’s some hope of actually improving our lot and a glimmer (Lloyd Christmasesque as it may be) of hope we can get out of the sh-thole that is C-USA.
by EamusAquila on May 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT 0 recs
ECU and the BIg East
Assuming ECU would be willing to join the BE under those conditions than Tranghese would be stupid not to take them. Although the way the article is written it seems that the “anonymous source” is as reliable as a message written on a bathroom wall.
Ultimately when (yes-WHEN) Big East football expands, one of two things have to/will happen: Notre Dame will be forced into the conference or Navy will join. ND becoming a BE football member would be too perfect, as it would bring a veritable cash cow into a financially weak conference. As much of a Domer-Hater as I am, ND becoming a BE member is 100% BEST case scenario. However, as most best case scenarios turn out to be, this is totally unrealistic. The esteemed (prick) Kevin White would be reluctant, if not totally unwilling, to share his NBC money with the rest of the contract and even less likely to sacrifice home-game revenue to play in the Carrier Dome. I’d like to see ND in the BE though, even if it meant accepting a smaller than desired piece of the NBC pie, as though would add immediate financial stability to weak (in terms of $$$) football conference.
Navy in the BE is much more realistic. Navy fans travel and travel well. Simply put, there are Navy alumni EVERYWHERE, especially around Big East country. From a dollars and cents standpoint, the Middies are not a threat take a nose dive on the BE like ECU might be. While Navy is certain to be less competitive w/o Paul Johnson, how much longer do we all expect Skip Holtz to remain at ECU?
by UCONNYank on May 13, 2008 10:42 PM EDT 0 recs
USM rivals?
I’m curious, you mention that in CUSA the Eagles are without any real natural rivals—who are some of the schools that either historically or from a common sense standpoint that you do consider rivals, or where it would make sense to develop a competetive rivalry with? Seems like they are sorta on an island where they would get pounded by SEC/Big 12 teams that would be in the immediate geographical area, but they are still on a higher level than most of the Sun Belt schools that are the next closest match. Competetively, they have the profile of a Mountain West or WAC team, but geographically it’d be a nightmare.
by Beatuofa on May 14, 2008 12:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Aside from our Northern sisters
We have Tulane, Memphis, and ECU as rivals. Some would have you believe that UAB is a rival, but this is false, you can’t have a rivalry if one side can’t beat the other.
by CptHA on
May 14, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
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C-USA Bowl Bids
I’m trying to figure out how C-USA has six bowl tie-ins (compared to three for the MAC) given the wretched state of the conference these last few years. Granted, the expansion of the bowl calendar has pretty much maxed out the available bids for BCS teams, but six! Really, six? That’s almost as many as the ACC and Big Ten.
by briandtw on May 14, 2008 6:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Rivals
To me Louisville is USM’s biggest rival. They played for years as independents before clashing in C-USA and are (were, anyway) very comparable programs – off the radar, but successful and occasionally very successful. They don’t play anymore, but I wish they did – from 2000-02, Louisville handed USM three really devastating losses in a row that knocked Southern from the position of conference kingpin. I really resent not getting those games back.
Historically, Tulane and Memphis are weak rivals, in my opinion. I don’t get particularly excited about those games and expect to win them (one of the reasons I’m upset about the direction of the program is that Memphis has won three out of four). I don’t consider ECU a rival but I am glad they’re competitive again. Louisville is the team I want.
by SMQ on May 14, 2008 8:05 PM EDT 0 recs
Some thoughts...
To me, the responsibility for CUSA’s (just WTF is the deal with that dash, anyway?) fall from mediocrity to sorriness lies in the fact that there’s no one with a bullseye on their back anymore (see 3 champions in as many years since the reconfiguration). Southern Miss farted around, Louisville bolted, TCU came and went, and what you were left with was heaping pile of suck. There’s no team providing the standard that everyone else has to try to keep up with. So far, since 2003, you can flip a coin as to who the best team will be in any given year. There’s no one setting the pace, and the goal has become to just try to be somewhat decent and wait for your turn to come around.
If CUSA is to become halfway respectable again, it’s not going to be because the programs decided to get serious about CUSA football; it’s going to be because of the urgency programs feel RE: not getting left out the next time conferences realign. It’s obvious the mid-majors are being more and more marginalized—playing on Tuesday nights while the commentators spend the whole time discussing the “real” football coming up on Saturday (to which Larry Fedora has told ESPN, “No thanks,” BTW). The time is coming sooner rather than later in which the final “your’e in or you’re out” is going to be called, and a BCS-AQ league will be a far better boat to be in when that time gets here.
Now, am I saying CUSA is beyond hope? No. ECU, UCF, Houston, and Tulsa all held their own in OOC games last year. The W-L record stunk and that has to change, but at least they were competitive. Tulsa beat BYU. UCF beat a down NC State, scared the crap out of Texas, and should’ve won the Liberty Bowl. ECU lost to Va Tech by 10 and beat Boise in their bowl. Houston kept it close with Oregon for a while, eventually losing by 11, and later lost to Bama by 6. A loss is a loss no matter how you spin it, but there are some programs in CUSA that are getting close to being pretty danged good on any given day. If Fedora can get USM back on track, there could be 3 Top 25 bubble teams in the East alone within a couple of years.
Here’s another question to ponder: Say a half-dozen or so of the current CUSA schools do reach a certain level of relative national respectability. Do they then consider breaking away to form a smaller but more geographically viable and potentially stronger league al la the Mountain West from the WAC once the expiration of TV contracts allows? At what point does carrying the likes of UAB around just for the sake of having 12 teams reach the point of diminishing returns?
by Shawn1228 on May 15, 2008 2:15 AM EDT 0 recs
UCF
I grew up in Orlando and my mother attended UCF, so I’ve been following that program along with my Gators.
I can tell you that UCF felt very hurt that South Florida got picked for the Big East over it. UCF had been playing football for longer, had put a high profile quarterback in the NFL (Daunte Culpepper), and had been working hard to position itself for a step up.
It would like nothing more than to get good enough to get an invite from an expanding Big East to prove it’s not an inferior school to USF. The school is fine with CUSA for now, but it’s not happy about it. If/when the Big East looks to expand for football, expect a lot of lobbying out of Orlando.
by Year2 on
May 15, 2008 10:45 AM EDT
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UCF and the Big East
I think if the Big East comes to its senses and accepts that the 16 teams for everything but football/8 football teams model is fundamentally flawed and splits, the former Big East football conference is likely to add someone. And at the end of the day, it’s likely to be UCF, because they aren’t almost in Arkansas (like Memphis), aren’t stuck in a mid-sized (population-wise) state that’s owned by the ACC and already has 4 BCS teams (like ECU), and are relatively close to USF and have a fair amount of the elusive ‘upside’.
But backing out of games with Big East teams doesn’t help their case, and neither does the rather acriminous state of the USF/UCF rivalry. If USF isn’t the biggest supporter of UCF in the Big East, then it’s not going to happen.
by drothgery on
May 15, 2008 12:15 PM EDT
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USF's influence
I’ve said all along that’s going to be interesting to see. Obviously, UCF has a lot of upside among the current CUSA crop, but would USF hold a veto card and would they play it? I’m no expert on the situation down there, but from all I’ve read, it’s not the friendliest of relationships. Perhaps once it gets to that point, USF won’t feel as great a need to marginalize UCF and the Bulls will focus more on the good of the conference, but you have to wonder.
Peering into the crystal ball on this stuff is a crapshoot because everything is dynamic. What a conference is looking for, who can provide it, and the politics involved can change in heartbeat.
That’s where CUSA screwed the pooch, all the way back when it was being formed. Instead of focusing on being a small football conference building for the future (which was supposed to be its intent), for some reason known only to God and Mike Slive, it upped and decided seemingly overnight that basketball was going be the driving force instead and you ended up with that Milwaukee-to-New Orleans “who-plays-what-sports-again?” mishmash that any sane person knew had all the stability of something Sylvester would build to get at Tweety.
IMHO, we would’ve been better off joining the Southern Independents and the SWC leftovers from the start instead of waiting for everyone to go completely to crap first.
by Shawn1228 on
May 15, 2008 1:43 PM EDT
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The root of the USF/UCF feud goes back to the beginning of the USF program. UCF wanted to have an annual game with the Bulls since they started playing football, but USF always refused.
The series didn’t start, ironically, until after an annual game was mandated by the agreement that let USF leave CUSA. I still don’t understand why USF resisted for so long and why it never liked UCF.
What makes the most geographic sense is to:
1) Take the current CUSA East and add Troy, FAU, and MTSU from the Sun Belt,
2) Take the current CUSA West and merge it with the rest of the Sun Belt, and
3) Demote FIU back to I-AA where it belongs.
That gives you a 10-team Sun Belt Conference (CUSA West + SBC) and a 9-team CUSA that has the option to add Western Kentucky if it ever gets good to get to an even 10.
by Year2 on
May 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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C-USA Angst
Good catch and post.
I vote the Tulane ballot at the BlogPoll- so I have a tremendous amount of angst about this failing League. If I could close my eyes and have just one wish vis-à-vis the Green Wave football program, it would not be the giant $120M SMU football stadium experiment. Not the $2M coach either. It wouldn’t be Tulane specific.
It would be "fix the League".
Tulane has kicked around, post-Katrina, ranked somewhere between 75-100 most weeks on CBS’ PowerPoll. They finished 2007 positioned at 95.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/120/index2
I honestly find it ahrd to think of things, any realistic singular action, that Tulane can do to change their ranking range of "on-field" product.
But if the League managed to get half-a-dozen teams rotating regularly in the Top Sixty, another two in the top 35- by osmosis Tulane would get better. A rising tide lifts all boats- the current declining tide in C-USA kills us more than the Dome or academic restraints or whatever ever does. Improve the League, there would be more juice to the schedule, more interest from recruits to play in a League that featured the current version of 1990s Louisville and Southern Miss, etc.
As long as that CBS poll (link below) features Tulane, UTEP, Rice, Marshall, UAB, SMU and their ilk in the bottom quartile, football interest in second division C-USA will be bottom quartile.
Attack the League problem, and 60% of the Tulane football problem will solve itself. We’d get that extra 10K in League attendance, get that recruit that considers Tulane over Duke and Navy versus the more local options, etc.
by FrankMc01 on May 15, 2008 10:25 AM EDT 0 recs







