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The NCAA Has Ways Of Making You Talk

Actually, most of the time, it doesn't. Which according to USA Today is a serious problem when individuals under investigation - like, say, Reggie Bush - refuse to sing:

The NCAA has beefed up and refined its enforcement program since Myles Brand took over as president in 2003, increasing the number of investigators from 12 to 20 and the number of directors from four to five. Average processing time for a case -- from the date the association receives information about a possible violation to the time the school is formally notified of allegations -- dropped from almost 19 to less than nine months.

But that does not address the fundamental problem in the Bush case.

"We have the ability to require certain people to talk to us or face an unethical-conduct charge ... primarily school personnel, people who are directly under our jurisdiction," says David Price, the NCAA's vice president for enforcement services. "But when you go outside that group, we generally are trying to get people to operate in good faith in telling us what happened."

The NCAA can and does enlist schools to coax reluctant witnesses. "But in the end, if they refuse to cooperate, there's not a whole more we can do about it," Price says.

Perhaps further complicating the Bush investigation is a settlement reached recently between the running back's family and the would-be agent, who claims to have plied the family with rent-free housing and cash gifts in what turned out to be a futile effort to land Bush as a client. Yahoo.com reported the agreement includes a confidentiality clause precluding the businessman from talking to the NCAA.

(Emphasis mine)

I wonder in my non-lawyerly way about that statement, "There's not a whole lot" the Association can do about its lack of subpoena power. The NCAA isn't a government organization, obviously, but it runs college sports in essentially the same way, establishing rules, investigating reports of transgression and meting out punishment (and raking in citizen-generated cash). When the actual government wants someone to talk in a criminal prosecution, it holds the individual in contempt and denies them most of the rights of a free citizen until they spill their guts or until the prosecution gives up for whatever reason. Witholding information is a crime in itself. What is the risk to the NCAA of doing the same thing, meting out minor probation or scholarship penalties for schools that don't show some effort to cooperate with the Association's version of a prosecution, or striking eligibility to players who won't come forward?


Make 'em squeal!
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That's draconian, and I don't really care about the NCAA's far-reaching powers to coerce its member schools into assisting its enforcement efforts. There are fundamental issues of competition at stake in keeping the field level - competition being the commodity here, after all - but it seems to get along just fine without strongarming anyone to that extent, and if it doesn't, well, screw The Man, I guess. But it's an academic, dare I say Machiavellian question about the structure of an essentially political authority: if NCAA investigators really want to know about Reggie Bush's extremely incriminating relationship with a start-up sports agency, what's stopping them? An institutional revolt?

Are they just too nice? I doubt it. My guess is the inherently heavy-handed, adversarial tone of that approach would create more problems via discord than it would solve in the way of enforcement. But if he really wants to, it seems to me Myles Brand holds the vice of sanctions - apply the squeeze and those nuts'll crack.

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Bring the NFL into it
The NCAA needs to sign an agreement with the NFL that guarantees that players will squeal on their former schools, or face serious economic repercussions in the form of massive fines. Reggie Bush might not care if USC gets a scholarship or two taken away, though that is probably better than what they should be facing, but he would be inclined to care if he faced a series of escalating fines due to his refusal to cooperate. If you let the NFL keep the fines, then cooperation is almost assured.

by Bear from Sacramento on Apr 23, 2007 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Because they'd get sued?
The first time that the NCAA tried to sanction a university because they (the NCAA) suspected but could not prove a violation of the rules, I suspect that there would be a serious lawsuit. That might play into the NCAA's hands of making information available via civil suit, but that's a very expensive way to go about it.

Plus, think of the opportunities to create havoc for die-hard fans - Alabama would be on probation in a minute based on various calls from concerned citizens from The Plains, etc. It could become a war of all against all.

As for bringing in the NFL: behavior prior to being an NFL player is surely outside the scope of their conduct clauses. I can't see where they would be able to actually claim that it was relevant to the player's NFL performance / status, and I'd bet that's another lawsuit waiting to happen, and justifiably so. To create a bad analogy, it would be like my current employer going after me for my abuse of internet access at my prior employer - they have no cause to care and no basis for sanction.

Lest I be accused of homerism, I certainly would agree that there is a strong and unpleasant odor around Mr. Bush's actions as a college player. I tend to think though that coming up with an enforcement plan with an aggressive reach, in order to get Bush and / or USC, would turn into a weapon that could take down any university, because it would be manipulable. Rather like the current set-up.

by DC Trojan on Apr 23, 2007 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I like the current setup, too, Trojan
It was just throwing a question out there. I figured someone would set me straight.

I'm also a Reggie Bush homer because he's with the Saints. Don't fine our first real supahstah!

by SMQ on Apr 23, 2007 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which
What's the latest on who the Saints are thinking about drafting?

And who would you LIKE them to be thinking about drafting?

by Peter Bean on Apr 23, 2007 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

REGGIE F-IN NELSON!
If he falls to 27, he's the best player. Take the best  player. They have to get help at corner, and if Nelson's not there or they're not high on his ability to move to corner, I wouldn't mind seeing them grab Aaron Ross, Leon Hall or Chris Houston. I know Ross had some problems when I watched him last year, but he was productive, too. Leon Hall had big problems against Ohio State and USC. I'm not as high on Daylon McCutcheon because he was untenably slow at at least one of his workouts. Houston I saw do a pretty nice job against Sidney Rice, really physical, bump-and-run man coverage, so he might be my preference of that group. He's probably the fastest, too.

But I've talked myself into coveting Nelson. I always want really good college players, and Nelson was probably the best last year - I don't trust these Lawrence Timmons types who have all the measurables but weren't all that notable in college. Nelson was going to play CB for Florida before Ryan Smith transferred in from Utah and he's flashed some really nice speed in workouts, so I think he's worth a shot there. Maybe even moving up for, because I doubt he lasts until the Saints' pick at 27. If you get him, worst case, he winds up playing safety. Knocking heads either way.

by SMQ on Apr 23, 2007 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

setting straight?
I don't know about that. But I do know that the NFL is pretty risk-averse.

FWIW, I usually don't bother watching NFL games, but I did catch a few Saints games last season because of young Mr Bush. Well worth it in the case of the shellacking of the Cowboys. If the Saints can make some improvements on the defensive side esp. in the secondary the 07 season should be pretty interesting also.

by DC Trojan on Apr 23, 2007 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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VOTE FOR DUKE!!!

by Jack on Apr 23, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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