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No, no, not again. The worst result of last year's mythical championship game was the growth and perpetuation of this absurd notion of superior "SEC speed," based not on the collective 40 times and shuttle drills of hundreds of players on a couple dozen teams that make up the SEC and Big Ten, but on a handful of plays in a single game that was decidedly outside the season-long patterns of both participants, and not demonstrably decided by "speed" (unless you're willing to suggest Tennessee and Arkansas were done in a week earlier by "speed," too, which was at least as plausible). These conferences need to play more often.

Anyway, then, the foolish geographical chest-thumping only lasted a few days before the onset of the offseason relegated it to the safe obscurity of message boards and occasional comment thread. This time, do not expect the partisan sons of the South to fall quiet at any point over the next month prior to the Buckeyes' "rematch" (ugh) with LSU; for a sampling of the inane vitriol to come, check this comment thread, or any SEC board, or let the usually sage Gator fans at Saurian Sagacity sum it up in a series of smug that doesn't even apply to their own team:

Ohio State? Tiger Bait.
Congrats to the Bayou Bengals on their bid to the BCS Championship game. Maybe next year we'll get to see OSU get trounced by a third SEC team but I'd prefer it to be the Gators again.

A Friendly Wager
Since Ohio State is to go from "Gator-Bait" to "Ti-Gah Bait" in only 1 year's time, here is a little friendly bet for our conference mates - can you beat the Buckeyes worse than we did?

The "line" is 27 points. We know LSU is going to win - but can the Tigers top a 27 point margin?

Taking all wagers.

Fun Fact: No SEC team has EVER lost a BCS Title game, the only conference undefeated in BCS title play.
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Wow, that 3-0 record truly shames them all.


If Ohio State wins, I'm sure we'll be reminded of "Big Ten Brains."
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One would think the false sense of inevitability that followed Ohio State prior to last year's championship (or USC the year before that, or that very, very fast Miami team in 2002, or, I don't know, LSU, Ohio State, West Virginia, USC, Oregon, Michigan, Oklahoma, California, Florida or LSU again prior to stunning upsets over the last three months) would demonstrate the virtues of humility to fans everywhere, and lead them to stop for a second to recognize - last year's anomalous championship beatdown is a great example of this - that anything can happen in one game, on one night, and "anything" will not necessarily reconcile itself with the accumulation of disparate performances that precedes it. It only adds to the accumulation; it doesn't define it. Based on everything we know from the dozen "samples" on both sides leading up to last January, that Florida team couldn't beat that Ohio State team by 27 points again in a whole season of trying. There's a reason the Gators were underdogs, and it's not because they kept the fast guys under wraps when squeaking out wins against South Carolina and Vanderbilt.

Based on everything we know from both teams' performances this season, Ohio State and LSU should be a close, hard-hitting game between two of the few teams that still operate largely from traditional two-back sets on offense and do not hesitate to run old-fashioned isos, counters and traps into the line. It's an interesting collision of style and persona between loose cannon Les Miles and icy, understated mercenary Jim Tressel, and their emphases on emotion, "poise" (as Miles likes to repeat to his oft-flagged charges) and discipline. But it will be decided by the side that executes and catches the right breaks under the specific set of circumstances that unfold on Jan. 7, at which point, of course, that team will be instantly refashioned into gold-drenched superheroes with inherent abilities far beyond those of mortal men. Naturally: We are the champions! These are the myths we make.

But the athletes, the speed, all of that is a given. LSU and Ohio State have both turned in top ten recrutiting classes each of the last four seasons. They've all got the athletes. They've all got the speed. The differences in raw talent on this level are nil. This championship, like all championships, will be about combining management, strategy and execution in the moment, and probably a bounce or timely flag or two. Not as catchy as "SEC Speed," but anything more precise than wrongheaded, bumper sticker hubris rarely is.

The White Whale on D-Day. The fight has been a long one, comrades, a hard, bitter struggle through much difficulty, hardship and oppression, but a press conference is scheduled later today in Westwood that should officially seal the fate of Karl Dorrell as head coach at UCLA, and thus validate the Quixotic journey that has defined the daily, single-minded obsession of Bruins Nation for years. The L.A. Times reports the university is already searching for Dorrell's successor:

The search for a new UCLA football coach has begun, even as current Coach Karl Dorrell awaits his fate.

Dorrell will be fired and a short list of candidates has been assembled, sources familiar with the athletic department said Sunday.

Boise State Coach Chris Petersen is said to be the first choice of Athletic Director Dan Guerrero, with Texas Tech Coach Mike Leach and former NFL coach Steve Mariucci considered among the other top candidates. Representatives on behalf of the UCLA athletic department have contacted all three, multiple sources said.

Former Washington and Colorado coach Rick Neuheisel will not be considered for the job, according to one of the sources.
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Well, no Neuheisel, but Mike Leach in Hollywood? Yes, please. Leach's teams in dusty, mud-rain-drenched outpost Lubbock have been better every season than Dorrell's Bruins, and vastly more exciting despite less overall talent and less exposure in the middle of the Big 12 South.


You'll get `em at the next job, coach.
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I'm a little worried about Nestor and his boys at BN, though, who have poured so much time, energy and bandwidth into getting Dorrell fired that, with the moment of blissful truth finally upon them, they find the future without their nemesis empty and devoid of meaning. They like Peterson, Mariucci and Leach there. What are they going to write about and bump from the diaries if not venomous (yet usually very true) rants exposing the Doofus for the milquetoast underachiever he is? Be careful what you wish for, BN...

New Mexico Bowl for the New Mexicans! For the second straight year, the second year of the game's existence, the New Mexico Bowl has tabbed - surprise! - New Mexico as one of its participants, this time to face 6-6 Nevada, which almost beat both Boise State and Hawaii in WAC play, falling to both on the last play of the game.

This is just one of the things I learned from perusing the complete bowl schedule. Other amazing insights:

• The PapaJohn's.com Bowl - it's not sponsored by the pizza company, but the Web site of the pizza company - features possibly the most lopsided matchup in postseason history, according to Jeff Sagarin, who ranks 9-3 Cincinnati  13th in his PREDICTOR ratings. The Bearcats' opponent, my beloved Southern Miss, comes in at 84th, below I-AA Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, Richmond, Delaware, Appalachian State and Massachusetts.

• The Motor City Bowl sets up a much-anticipate rematch of Purdue and new MAC champion Central Michigan, which lost by 23 points in West Lafayette in September after allowing 24 and more than 300 yards total offense to the Boilermakers in the first quarter.

• Boise State loses the WAC championship in a hostile environment in Hawaii...and gets to go back to Hawaii, to play East Carolina in the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl. The Pirates will be traveling about one-fifth of the entire circumference of the Earth.

• The two best pre-New Year's Day games, as usual, will be the Holiday, matching Texas and Arizona State, and the Peach Chick-Fil-A, between Auburn and Clemson. I can't think of a better bowl pairing: Atlanta is equidistant between Auburn and Clemson, and it had better stock up on the orange Tiger gear.

• Who's excited for 6-6 Colorado and 6-6 Alabama in the Independence Bowl? Nothing says "reward for a mediocre season" like dodging bullets in the cold on the way to the crumbling stadium off I-10 I-20 in beautiful Shreveport, especially for Tide fans, because they were just there last year!

• Wake Forest meets this year's Wake Forest, UConn, in the CarCare Bowl. Neither team will actually score - they'll just wait for the other side to turn it over in opportune field position. Prediction: a scoreless tie in regulation followed by a 33-30 Wake win in eleven overtimes, all ending in field goals.

• The Sun Bowl pits South Florida against Oregon in a sea of hideous green that seemed a lot more appealing a month ago.

• Best team not in a bowl: Troy. The Trojans entered Saturday's de facto Sun Belt championship game against Florida Atlantic at 8-3, having beaten Oklahoma State and the entire Sun Belt and only lost to SEC powers Florida, Arkansas and Georgia. But Howard Schnellenberger's FAU Owls pulled out the road upset and the automatic bid to the New Orleans Bowl, where they'll play Memphis in the first postseason game in school history on Dec. 21 while Troy stews in the snub.

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Purdue - CMU
The Purdue/CMU matchup may be highly anticipated by CMU fans, but not Purdue fans.  This season has been a severe disappointment for us.  I thought we were a 9-3 team with a highly realistic shot at 10-2.  Instead we finished 7-5 and lost to freaking INDIANA.

I'm not sure Purdue will beat CMU in the bowl game.  I know the CMU fans will be out in force, while the Purdue faithful will probably stay home (who wants to go to Detroit in December, anyway?)  The CMU team will be out for blood, while the Boilers will be in "please don't let us lose" mode.

Purdue has CMU outclassed on sheer talent and physical ability on both sides of the ball.  But they'll be lucky to walk away with a win.

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by Brad Warbiany on Dec 3, 2007 12:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I don't know
The early season line on Purdue was that they were a mid-level Big 10 team.  Most of the predications for Purdue I saw had them at either 7-5 or 8-4, so yeah, they're about where I thought they'd be.

That said, I can sympathize, because Rutgers is 7-5 against a MAC team in a bowl game they weren't expecting to be in either.

by sodakboy93 on Dec 3, 2007 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think maybe you don't actually like college FB
I'm basing this claim on your opening remarks about humility and the advisability of using the human propensity to assume that tomorrow will be like today, in order to predict the results of college football games... because the weather on the veldt is just like a bowl game in that regard.

by DC Trojan on Dec 3, 2007 12:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Troy snub
In the past I've lamented that the reason a good non-autobid conference team got left out of the bowls was that the Big Six conferences piled up a few too many bowl affiliations. But this year 14 of the 17 teams with a worse resume than Troy (not named FAU) are from other non-autobid conferences and the ones from BCS conference are 1-2-3 on that list:

46 (Troy)

48    Alabama
51    Purdue
53    Colorado
55    TCU
56    Tulsa
57    Indiana
57    New Mexico
58    Fresno St
62    Navy
64    East Carolina
67    Ball State
70    Florida Atlantic
70    Central Michigan
72    Bowling Green
74    Houston
76    Southern Miss
81    Nevada
87    Memphis

(The rankings are the majority consensus of 69 different computer ranking systems).

by JPK on Dec 3, 2007 12:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I take offense
My 40th ranked Gamecocks were the biggest snub, having fought to 6-6 over the course of the season.

I'll go back to being depressed by myself, now.

FYI - the rankings the above poster was citing:

http://www.masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm

by USCKB on Dec 3, 2007 1:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I can't feel too badly for Troy...
...on one hand, because if you don't win your single-bid conference you get what you get.

But Troy deserves better, because unlike Middle Tennessee St. last year (which got into a bowl with no appreciable wins of note), Troy actually had a win over a decent BCS team a representative performance against a top-10 Georgia squad.

by sodakboy93 on Dec 3, 2007 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I feel Troy's pain
The similarity between their situation and Southern Miss' in 1996 are uncanny.

by Shawn1228 on Dec 3, 2007 11:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Shreveport's off I-20, not I-10
SMQ how could you possibly be so careless?

Herbie made a good point on the broadcast last night that if one were to take Ohio State's team 40 speeds and compare it to LSU's, he wouldn't be able to tell which team is which (well, aside from Trindon Holliday's at the top). This notion that we've got by far and away the better talent has got to be quashed. It's nonsensical and I just hope that Miles & co are shrewd enough to keep those proclamations from getting to the Tigers' heads.

I do hope that for the next month, while Dorsey and Beckwith heal, we're bombarded with debate surrounding the "puzzling" deterioration of the LSU defense over the past month and a half. Sound the horns, ring the bells, somebody needs to start pumping up the Ohio State chances and stop fellating LSU, else Jan 7 could be a mirror image of last year's title game, only in reverse.

by GeauxTigers on Dec 3, 2007 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

discussion of the matchup
There are a few talking heads talking along those lines, but on the whole I think you're stuck with big hype on the LSU side and disrespect on OSU.  It will remain so until OSU wins its next BCS bowl.

BTW, if you guys want to see an intelligent discussion of this matchup, there's one underway on the OSU fan site right now.  A well-informed and civil discussion involving fans from both sides:

http://mbd.scout.com//mb.aspx?S=145&F=3154#s=145&f=3154&t=1572461

The first post is about the only one that's

The post that starts this thread is maybe the most "homerish" and unrealistic of the bunch.  Skip past it and see what some of the other guys have to say.

by TallBill on Dec 3, 2007 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think he wrote about it in a post within
the last few days - to the effect that LSU's "talent" is overrated.

A very fast, athletic and talented team, to be sure.  One that Nick Saban or for that matter Mike the Tiger, even the new young one, could have coached to 3 National Titles?  Hmm.

by marcillac on Dec 3, 2007 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, my point on the "careless"
Was just in regards to off of which interstate the Vegas of the South is located. Tim Brando lives there, you know! Ahh, beautiful Shreveport.

by GeauxTigers on Dec 3, 2007 3:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Steltz
also kinda banged up and Jackson nearly blinded at Kentucky (although they both seem to have been reasonably functional).

Who, precisely, is going to coach these boys though?  If BP stays, its hard to imagine he could give this his undivided attention.  

by marcillac on Dec 3, 2007 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Haven't they told you SMQ?
No tOSU receiver or cornerback runs the 40 in less than 5.4

No LSU O-lineman or D-tackle (or Florida, or Georgia, or Vanderbilt for pete's sake) runs said 40 in more than 4.3.

Les Miles' IQ is approximately 1/3 of his hat size.

(However, one might recall that you yourself wrote about the rather "marginal"-swingpointy nature of PSU's win over Tennessee.  

by marcillac on Dec 3, 2007 3:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Last year
Ohio State's players didn't look slow (well, except their offensive tackles, who were moving in little puddles of molasses), they looked lost - especially on defence.  But I'm not sure that it's any better for OSU or Big10 supporters to say, "hey, we weren't slower, we were just out-coached!"

Of course, this year they're facing Lester...

by peachy on Dec 3, 2007 4:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope the
sarcasm came through somewhat.  

The blowout resulted not from a great disparity in speed and not even, I don't think from a coaching failure.  I'm sure Tressel didn't disrespect Florida and tried to drill it into the players. You can only do so much.  The layoff was to long, the banquet circuit too enticing and the press too fawning.  Add a good game plan from Florida and a missing Ted Ginn and....

by marcillac on Dec 3, 2007 6:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've always felt...
...that if the players aren't ready, that is - by definition - a coaching failure.  And to be honest, to me the OSU players didn't seem unmotivated or lacking in respect for their opponent, they seemed completely befuddled - especially the defence in the first half.  It was this total lack of ability to anticipate what the opponent would do next that made them look relatively slower.  (Except, again, for the offensive line.)

by peachy on Dec 3, 2007 7:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Corruption by design
SMQ said in responding to this: Fun Fact: No SEC team has EVER lost a BCS Title game, the only conference undefeated in BCS title play.
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> Wow, that 3-0 record truly shames them all.

Perhaps someone will tell the SEC that no non-BCS conference team has ever lost a BCS bowl. That argument has just as much merit. If Hawaii overcomes UGA (chaka, uga, uga, uga chaka) next month, non-BCS conference teams will be 3-0 in BCS bowls, equivalent to the SEC's record in title games.

Perhaps the BCS bowls will be better off without the overrated, overhyped SEC and Big 10 and their supremacist attitudes. Was anyone really surprised that with over a half-dozen teams regarded almost equally that the mythical championship game will be between the two conferences that dominate the sports media...again?

"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England

by Calvert on Dec 3, 2007 4:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Utah
beat Pitt.

OU overlooked Boise, were flat for 3 quarters and Boise still needed every trick in the book to eek out a  win.  Great for them, but there needs to be some perspective.

by marcillac on Dec 3, 2007 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Utah beat Pitt
Absolutely. The powers that be didn't want to give Utah a credible opponent because it would give legitimacy to their title hopes had they won. By giving them a very weak Pitt team they had the best of both worlds. If Utah won (handily in this case), they could say that it was because they played a lower caliber opponent. If Pitt won they could say that Utah wasn't good enough to beat a mediocre BCS conference champion and was overrated to begin with. Either way, the big conferences maintain their dominance by deliberately avoiding good non-BCS teams on the field and just saying that they're better. After all, their paid mouthpieces in the media keep telling us so.
"I could have conquered Europe, all of it, but I had women in my life." - King Henry II of England

by Calvert on Dec 3, 2007 5:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

on Utah vs. Pitt
I was completely annoyed by that match-up but for somewhat different reasons.  Utah came in as the "cinderella" and Pitt was an overachiever.  As a neutral fan in this case, I really wanted to see Utah given a tough test as it really seemed they were up for it.  Instead, they got by far the weakest of all of the BCS automatic qualifiers.  I think most neutrals wanted to get a better picture of Utah's potential that year but the powers that be really blew it.  I don't know whether or not Calvert's conspiracy theory has merit but that pairing was really disappointing.  And I didn't hear any of the TV talking heads comment on that.  When Cinderella goes to the ball she's supposed to get a prince.  What about that fairy tale don't the BCS idiots understand?

by crepuscular on Dec 4, 2007 7:19 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Completely disagree
Everybody will remember the end of that game and the way Boise won it, but let's not forget that with about 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, Boise was up 28-10 and getting the ball back after forcing an Oklahoma punt.  They kicked OU's ass for 40 minutes and if they don't get the ball off that punt, Boise might win going away.

by DoubleB on Dec 3, 2007 6:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

In my original
comment I note that OU didn't show for the first 3 quarters of the game and was able to stage the comeback when it really needed to.  As I said they did not sufficiently respect Boise and paid for it.  Boise was a lot better than OU thought they would be but I still don't think teams like that can hold theri own on a consistent basis with the best competition.  

Perhaps even the Georgia/WFV Sugar Bowl was constitutes a somewhat similar phenomenon.  

In any case, Hawaii will have its chance against Georgia ("The Hottest Team in the Country") and WFV against OU and I for one am really looking forward to it (unlike the vast majority of the uber crappy bowls).  Hope everyone shows up though.

by marcillac on Dec 4, 2007 1:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?
What you call "didn't show up" I would call an ass-whipping.  If the score had been 28-10 Oklahoma, I don't think we'd be talking about Boise "not showing up."

Bob Stoops is a very good coach.  If he can get his kids up for the Baylors and Tulsas of this world, I think he can get them up for Boise State.

by DoubleB on Dec 4, 2007 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And isn't...
getting ready to play part of the game anyway?  Essentially, we're being told here that better teams are habitually and considerably worse at preparation, which by definition wouldn't make the "better" team all that much better in the first place.

Also, isn't it amazing how when some teams (LSU immediately comes to mine) eek out wins every week by 2 or 3 points in the final seconds, they're "getting the job done" and therefore an excellent team, but when others (Hawaii immediately comes to mind) do it, they're "just getting by" and therefore overrated?

by Shawn1228 on Dec 4, 2007 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

See, here's the thing
That argument assumes that all late, narrow wins are equivalent.  But of course this is not true - Florida does not equal Lousiana Tech.  The Bulldogs are in fact the one direct point of comparison between Hawaii and LSU; and winning by one point in overtime is just the tiniest bit less impressive than winning by forty-eight points in regulation, not so?

(I do agree with your first point, by the way; not being prepared is a coaching failure, not an excuse.)

by peachy on Dec 4, 2007 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

LSU's
strenght of schedule (and SMQ has been very much on the case the entire year) is somewhat dramatically superior to that of Hawaii.

Again, as I comment elsewhere some Hawaii players (e.g. Colt Brennan) will be drafted not lower than the 2nd round, some LSU players (e.g. Matt Flynn) will be lucky to be taken in the 6th.  

We'll see what happens with Georgia and I'm certainly hoping for a close game. Its highly likely, however, that the Rainbow defense would have been shredded by at least 5 (Florida, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Tennessee) of LSU's opponents to the point where even mister Brennan and his receivers at their best could not have saved it.  

by marcillac on Dec 5, 2007 3:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Tressel is a
very good coach and he couldn't get his boys to show up for the MNC in Glendale when said MC was on line.  I'm sure he knew enought about Florida to conclude that tOSU couldn't casually blow them out and yet I'm quite sure there complacency played a far greater role in the blowout than the supposed chasm in speed.  

Whatever the 44 deep disparity in athletecism between tOSU and Florida I think we can safely presume that this disparity between OU and Boise is far greater.  When the physically inferior team takes a big lead over the physically superior one a lack of motivation on the part of the physically superior team can be safely presumed.

Most OU players will not play in the NFL.  Some Boise players will.  Boise's coaches and players deserve respect from programs up to and obviously including Oklahoma and will occassionally defeat them.  This most emphatically does not meat that BSU and it peers can consitenly compete with OU and LSU.  Certainly one would be inclined to wager large amounts of money against such teams winning 4 or even 3, probably even 2 games in a playoff.  

by marcillac on Dec 5, 2007 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Based on what
"Whatever the 44 deep disparity in athletecism between tOSU and Florida I think we can safely presume that this disparity between OU and Boise is far greater."

What is that comment based on?  High school recruiting rankings?  The conferences these teams play in?  The names on the front of their jerseys?  Usually the biggest difference between quality BCS programs and non-BCS schools is line play.  Other than the fact Boise tired down the stretch of that game (particularly on the D-line), I thought line play was pretty even.  The stats show it and watching the game showed it.

Your assumptions seem to be based solely on the fact that one team is Oklahoma and the other is Boise State.

by DoubleB on Dec 6, 2007 2:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Keeping in mind the no-third-team rule ...
... who would you have taken over Illinois? BC, the second-place team in a worse conference than the Big Ten? Arizona State, a team with exactly one win over a team with a winning record?

I agree Missouri has a better resume than Illinois and got left out. But I'm not sure Kansas does - their best win is over the sixth-best team in a conference with five good teams. Illinois has at least three better wins than Kansas's win over Texas A&M (Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State).

by SpartanDan on Dec 3, 2007 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed
The no third team rule is one of the huge problems with the BCS and hideous example of $ over merit.  

by marcillac on Dec 4, 2007 1:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

New Mexico
The funny thing about the New Mexico - New Mexico Bowl thing is that the Mountain West is supposed to have a rule that no team can play in the same bowl more than once every three years.  The problem was that this meant the New Mexico Bowl would have to take TCU, and leave New Mexico as an at-large, where it was possible they wouldn't get a bid.

But a combination of TCU not wanting to go to New Mexico and the Texas Bowl not wanting to have New Mexico led to a deal being struck.

On the Boise/Hawaii thing, apparently the WAC gave Boise the choice of where they wanted to play, and the Broncos let the players choose, and the result was kind of inevitable.

by spudsfan on Dec 3, 2007 5:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It was meant as humor,
but alas perhaps not taken that way. But you might note the inclusions of  comments like "Fun Fact" and "A Friendly Wager" are meant, in the context of our usual commentary, as rib-poking rather than serious analysis.

That said, there will be more.

Finally, before you "pooh-pooh" are Fun Factoid, the conference records in the BCS Title game are thus -

SEC 3-0
Big 12 2-3
Big East 1-2
ACC 1-2
Big 10 1-1
Pac 10 1-1

In that light, 3-0 looks damn impressive.

by Mergz on Dec 4, 2007 9:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

You're not the only one, Mergz
I wouldn't have used SS as an example if it didn't fit so well what I was reading elsewhere.

by SMQ on Dec 4, 2007 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I also talk about...
...SEC SPEED!!! with tongue firmly planted in cheek -- which is why I bold it, italicize it, and put three exclamation points behind it. Do I think that the SEC players on an average team are really faster than the players anywhere else? Eh, maybe a touch. But probably not enough to make a difference in most games, and almost certainly not against teams like Ohio State, who recruit about as well as the top-flight SEC programs.

I think, if you asked most serious SEC bloggers, they'd probably agree. Sure, there are a few Southern partisans who think the SEC is the fastest conference everer!!! But every conference has those people. At least we don't blame the layover when our teams lose.

by cocknfire on Dec 4, 2007 3:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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