NATIONAL OPEN THREAD: WISH UPON A PAY-PER-VIEW EDITION
Today's shedule is interesting enough in its own way, for the discerning fan, but lacks that marquee Armageddon game that rocks the rafters like LSU-Florida last week.
Not that we need it to enjoy a great day - two weeks ago was a "down week" and wound up one of the wildest days of the decade - but today promises a moment or two of wistfullness, or restlessness, maybe even some mild envy of Northeasterners for a change, who chave the rare opportunity to pause for solemn reflection on the game's blueblooded roots during not one, not two, but three Ivy League games on local and quasi-local (like CSTV, which carries non-Ivy upstart Lafayette at Harvard at 1 p.m. Eastern) networks this morning. Princeton and Yale will be playing on different channels at 12:30, harbinging back to the days, the good old days *sniff* when illiterate brutes off the farms of the South and West knew their place in football, and in society...
That clip is purported to be the oldest surviving footage of any college football game, in this case the game of the 1903 version of the "game of the century" between perennial champions, which was attended by 50,000 people. Adjusted for population inflation, 50,000 people in one place in America in 1903 is the equivalent today of about 182,000 people. Suck on that, Tennessee.
Maybe some enterprising viewer will fill us in on the valiant deeds of the "love of the game" types, from anywhere, while the rest of us focus on the modern behemoths. All games are on the table.
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My schedule for the day
11:00 - Georgia Tech-Miami
Secondary: Illinois-Iowa
2:30 - LSU-Kentucky
Secondary: Texas A&M-Texas Tech
5:30 - Missouri-Oklahoma
Secondary: Auburn-Arkansas (6:45)
8:15 - Colorado-Kansas State
Until party time.
i have no schedule
basically, i will at least see a little bit of every game on this schedule...
my top games:
louisville - cincinnati
lsu - kentucky
missouri - oklahoma
colorado - kansas state
Same here..
then I'll flip channels until my fingers cramp up.
SMQ, great write up on SC, you hit the nail on the head!
Light day here
Illinois/Iowa
[break for yard work / dog walking / wife attention]
3:30
Aggressively watching LSU/UK (father-in-law almost got tix and would have taken me, but fell through)
7:00
UL/Cinci -- KRAG takes his crap show on the road to a team with many players who remember the 70-7 beatdown we hung on them in 2004. Oh, and the first team we play all year with a good defense. Yikes.
Post-7:00 -- who the hell knows.
Kid's already asleep in the Orange Bowl.
Not sure if you've got much experience with babies
"Andre's Soft-Ware"
USF goes for the bomb
The next play Grothe throws another jump ball to the end zone, this time to Jackson who misses it.
Third down, grothe about to get sacked, eludes TWO linemen, scrambles back 10 yards, then bombs it to a 3rd USF WR who catches it inside the 5.
USF is running the playstation offense.
iowa has less than zero faith in the FG kicker
all the other games are boring.
Who is that running back for Miami?
syracuse - rutgers might
its on te altitude channel and masn, for those with directv sports package.
im glad i get to watch it, all of the other games arent exactly thriling...
maybe illinois - iowa.
Didn't take long for Iowa State to blow a coverage
Texas
Uh....
Oh, by the way, the injured player for Miami is being helped to the sideline. So Hank, how about those odds on Any Given Satruday...
love waking up...
so glad to see OSU playing Kent State
Contrast
Irony
ESPNU
They have these "hooks" to keep people interested in the game. Against NC State, Louisville fans had to see local cookouts and food during the game, today they have USF students or "celebrities" on the sideline reading true/false questions about USF and the booth has to guess "bull" or "no bull."
I hate to break it to you, ESPNU -- if anyone CHOSE to watch this game, they are interested in the football going on. We certainly don't turn in for the 25th best announcing team, the bad picture quality, and the small crowds.
Just show the friggin game. Hell, just have the video feed and the ESPN.com gametracker on the screen so we know the stats.
Mendenhall average 6 per carry in the 1st half
Well, if Urban won't do it...
Like, if Tebow had been born two years earlier (or taken enough AP credits in home school to graduate early) would Zook have hung in longer?
When Mendenhall gets invited to New York in December, SMQ can say he started hyping him in early October.
Good play call
His WR had a step. Nice protection by the Ill line, time for a quick double move.
I wouldn't have minded spreading the field with 3- or 4-wide in the shotgun and then running a draw with mendenhall.
Buffalo scored 28 points in the 1st quarter
At some point
Maybe they're taking the Al Borges approach
Again
Chances
Meanwhile Grothe is just bombing the ball downfield. I guess they are practicing for the UL game, which 3/4 of those will go for TDs.
Nice play call there
what the hell was ron zook thinking?
i guess they would have gone for it regardless, but still...
iowa could put this game away right now.
Unpretty
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Fark
Thank goodness for DVR.
Zook's use of the 2 QBs is bizarre. I don't think you can really have a "closer" QB. A closer RB is one thing.
Is Illinois going with the backup QB?
Wow
Surprise
But he, too, can scramble.
I really don't see the difference in the QBs. Can someone who has followed Illinois more closely explain? Is williams just not trustworthy enough late in games?
What was McGee doing there?
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
I agree, Card
Zooked!
I guess Iowa probably had a couple extra guys back after that TD play, but maybe try another shot down the field?
Bringing a guy in off the bench who hasn't played all game late in the 4th quarter to run a game winning drive. It would have worked too if it wasn't for the mental mistakes. Zooked!
Offensive shootout, SEC style
Sabaned!
YES I WILL COACH YOUR LEGENDARY FOOTBALL TEAM TO A 6-6 SEASON.
Down to the wire
JPK: Keep us updated on Ole Miss-Bama. Don't have the Lincoln-Financial game.
Little early on the player of the game?
What was with that defense?
The play calling
Option Left - 1 yard.
Option Right - 2 yards.
Throw to Benn -- 25+ yards.
Repeat.
One thing to keep in mind...
Do you remember college, or are you currently in it? No matter how talented, can you really ever count on a large group of college dudes to do anything consistently well?
im actually
i understand what you are saying and generally agree with you, but that doesnt mean they have an excuse for throwing it to no one in particular.
and i understand that both teams definately wanted to win the game, in all reality, it was a cliche.
Absolutely
But I mean, he's a redshirt frosh who has been on the bench the whole game. Is it really unreasonable to expect him to make a good read/pass with all that traffic inside the 10 like that?
Gotta think about how you are using these guys, if you are zook right?
i agree, the blame is on zook
because of some mythical closer-ness quality that he possesses?
im just glad that ron zook isnt kansas' coach.
game over.
the 10th ranked team just beat the 2nd best team...
granted it was at home, but still,
I don't know that the spread means so much...
And I know they lost like 8 straight conference games, but was that really worth the fans storming the field? Or do they just let fans on postgame as a matter of course?
W goes to Iowa's defense
Switching to Ole Miss / Bama
War eagle!
Good to see SMQ with some old fashioned hate
If Chris Fowler
Best thing about that commercial
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Too, too easy....
can sit in bed with his laptop until 4 a.m. without falling asleep, he's a better man than me.
that I'm not going anywhere... But that's the laugh-line of the thread so far...
Mike Hart...
Mich is killing Purdue
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
'm getting USC-ua
New nickname for Nebraska
Kinda cool
Mark Sanchez is a 'third year sophomore'
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions
This LSU-Kentucky game
OMG NO
UK fans would have been insufferable. The hype around here for that game would have made the OSU-Mich game look like Buffalo-Toledo.
You're
No certainty what happens - 2007 after all but am looking for a relatively comfortanble LSU win so that CBS will show 'Bama/Tennessee rather than Florida/UK next week. Appreciate you're sentiments respecting Ole Miss but would LOVE to see Saban loose to the Orgeron AND follow up with beat down to FULLMER on the 3rd Sunday in October. Can you imagine the conniption in Tuscaloosa?
Woodson
Yes, he has a cannon. But his stats are padded by those quick passes and screens, and all the times they throw for TDs inside the 10.
You are correct
Looks like PJ Hill fumbled on the 1st play from scrimmage at the 12. A few plays later, Penn St. scored.
As a matter of fact
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa
Well...
Too cute
Also was that some sort of screen on 3rd down? the OL got out of the way, but there were no blockers near the WR.
I don't understand the mind of Les Miles
Fair enough
But LSU has no first downs. UK's defense is not worth trying to be clever.
The Game That Nobody Watched
Anyhow, a couple of observations:
- The Jim Wacker/Mike Tomczak broadcast crew is nails-on-the-chalkboard bad. If they're not shilling for the BTN (and as a Northwestern guy, I am grateful for the network, but lets tone down the sales please.
- Our defense? Um, not good. Nothing new here, but it's eye-opening to see how easy Minnesota moved the ball on us. Thank goodness the Gophers can't stop anybody either.
by RotoJeff on Oct 13, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
Dangerous
Bread and butter
LSU just needs to run the ball all over them. UK goes for strips and RBs can break a lot of tackles. UK's turnover margin has been the fuel behind their rise, and striping the ball instead of tackling is a part of that -- they give up a ton of yards, but they stop the other teams by forcing TOs.
kentucky is for real
i bet uk wins, although holliday just about broke it.
regarding woodson, i want the chiefs to draft him. i think he will be the best QB in this upcoming draft, better than brohm.
Woodson v. Brohm
Woodson has a cannon, but it will take him longer to grasp the mental part of the NFL.
Brohm has been preparing to be an NFL QB his whole life.
And no I'm not biased.
you are right about that part
i think woodson will be the better longterm QB, if the team that drafts him doesnt rush him into playing time and gives him time to learn nfl intricities.
he reminds me a lot of jason campbell.
What a shot
Wazzu-Oregon
by RotoJeff on Oct 13, 2007 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
Nowheres
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Not this year
Yep - down cycle for the Big Ten this year, no doubt.
by RotoJeff on Oct 13, 2007 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Mark Sanchez
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 4:59 PM EDT reply actions
It's behind...
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
er
Trojans' TD came from a Chauncey Washington run. Sanchez wasn't looking all that bad until the picks.
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Just to clarify:
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Lip readers
I think both refs called it
Especially since the only replay was a quick one and not from the same angle.
TN - Miss St.
by RotoJeff on Oct 13, 2007 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
DTV
The best part? It's a write-off for my business.
MSU just went for it on 4th and 6 and failed, but Ainge just returned the favor by throwing up a duck that got picked off.
by RotoJeff on Oct 13, 2007 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Big TD for Kentucky
Texas Tech - aTm
by RotoJeff on Oct 13, 2007 5:22 PM EDT reply actions
USC
Although it would appear Booty might potentially get his job back and Mitch Mustain might be licking his chops as well.
Mustain can't play
Ron Franklin
by RotoJeff on Oct 13, 2007 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
Franklin is the best
Tracey Wolf > Erin Andrews
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
Gary
You know
he's a man of many hats
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Sanchez to Daivs!
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 6:17 PM EDT reply actions
Every time it looks like LSU is about to pull away
USC Rushing Attack
(and yes, not having Stafon Johnson might be a wee little factor, too)
by RotoJeff on Oct 13, 2007 6:34 PM EDT reply actions
As if on cue:
But you're right otherwise, the OL MASH unit is a problem
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This kid Locke
kentucky just might do this.
very odd.
Jai Eugene
http://louisville.scout.com/a.z?s=17&p=8&c=1&nid=1759020
Luckily he's a 5-star.
Les Miles
Also, does OSU jump Cal just because?
If you need me, I'll be hiding under a rock for the next 10 years so I can avoid all UK fans.
I wouldn't have handed that off
Whenever UK..
UK needed a TD there. Let's see how Les Miles' testicles call this last drive.
Lee Corso
Fourth-string tailback
Chase Daniel floats one
What the hell was that?
agree with SMQ
almost.
key play, uk needs to score a td...
great play by UK...
do 3 straight qb sneaks, go for it on 4th and everything.
LSU should challenge that
he got the ball to the white line
that is about as close as it gets...
Still not sure
I still think
Guy who caught it was covered up
Penalities
How many big plays have they had called back because of penalties?
PENALTIES
also my wife is a UK bball fan, doesn't care about football but now is openly rooting for UK.
second straight game lsu has played in
you would think they would get tired out eventually of playing this high-intensity games.
What'd I miss?
I don't know how much that hurts
wow. just wow.
the key will be 2 point conversions.
obviously.
it is all on lsu...
odds are that yes, they can. the real question is whether they can get a 2 point conversion.
Hester:
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
no hester.
not to take anything away from kentucky, kentucky shut down that play.
if it wasnt already official, it is now...
no. sense.
who is #1 in the bcs? cal or ohio state? or maybe even bc?
This also means...
Herman Johnson didn't touch a soul
I don't know how Locke is the POG over Woodson or Johnson. What?
Is everyone taking a break?
Also, will the college football coaches please please please please please not rank teams in the pre-season based on how good a school was or wasn't 10-40 years ago?
What a season. Up, down, etc.
i agree with cardsfan
you can keep all the other bowls, just have them be in the background for the "lesser" teams and, more importantly, for the money they create. sure, it wouldnt be the same money, but it is still $$$...
it wouldnt be perfect, but it would be better than what we have now.
ONLY Vanderbilt
by Tom @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
Nobody get excited just yet
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions
Uh
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy crap
Mizzou winning at Oklahoma would be the 15th most surprising game this month!
Don't know if anybody noticed
by Tom @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
We noticed!
Uh, Cal-OSU ending?
What were we saying earlier about 19 year old RS frosh QBs and making plays inside the 15 yard line?
Favorites are the new Underfdogs
Great great finish
by John @ Sunday Morning Quarterback on Oct 13, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
The BCS computers are going to aspolde
What on earth are the rankings going to look like when they are released tomorrow?
they are going to announce
they will just pick two random teams out of a hat, and they will play for the national title.
and if there is an obvious underdog based on talent, i will bet you a million dollars that team wins.
OK guys
Um yeah...
Big Ten
the 10th ranked team just beat the 2nd best team..."
- rockchalk
The Big10 has certainly had several embarrasing out-of-conference losses and I'm not saying that they're as strong as the SEC, but I just can't agree with that comment. When a bottom team in the SEC beats a top team, everyone says it is because the SEC is so good but when it happens in the Big10 it's because the Big10 is so bad? That's just stupid.
Except...
And ASU just exploded all over UW in the 3rd quarter, getting 2 long TD runs and a long pass to double up the Huskies. Top 10, here we come!

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